Yo princess
Why would you highly recommend something that makes a person go mad?
Re-read my post. I re-posted saying I meant to say NOT RECOMMENDING.
Stick to running.
Signs of an Awakening Kandalini!!
by frankiespeakin 117 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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dolphman
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Princess
dolphman: gotcha
still worried about Little Toe's lack of convulsions though.
Hey Bradley!
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logansrun
Dolph,
Do you mind if I ask if you have had any previous psychiatric problems and/or dabbled in drugs (especially LSD)?
B.
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City Fan
Thanks for the reply mark!
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dolphman
Smoked marijuana a lot when younger. Did do LSD once. Growing up a JW produced a lot of trauma, however I've never been on psychiatric meds. Oh, and my Aunt does have schizophrenia. Oh, and I voted for Bush 4 years ago.
After reading the above info, here's a couple of things to consider:
First, I do hold a day job at Microsoft. I also put myself through college and have been on my own since I was 17. I also directed an independent film. So, I hope this counts as evidence that I do have my shit together to some degree.
Second, it's one thing to spaz out and mutter unintelligible jibberish. It's another when it correlates exactly to old buhddist and hindu tantric mantras and practices. THIS is what I think seperates the crazies from those undergoing a direct spiritual experience.
Third, I spent some time after these intial experiences going to a counselor, to try and figure out their origin. I had no intention of having my life screwed up and going crazy. Needless to say I had to weed my way through a lot of New Age BS before stumbling upon the truth.
Fourth, I'm not trying to do anything on this post besides shed some light on kundalini experiences, since I have experience in this area and their is a LOT of ignorance concerning it. I could care less about my experiences and often wish they had never happened.
Oh, and if you know anyone, I mean anyone, who could scientifically document any of this, let me know. Lie detectors, brain scans, you name it. I've talked to the University of WA and some other research centers but get no response. They probably think I'm a quack.
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dolphman
I should also point out that once a person reaches enlightenment after undergoing a kundalini awakening, all phenomena stops. Just like the others on this thread have said, the point of it all is to question and do inquiry. "Who am I"? Etc. Well after a kundalin awakening completes, you find out. And that's the end of it. No more phenomena.
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logansrun
dolphman,
Forgive me. I'm only covering all the bases:
Smoked marijuana a lot when younger. Did do LSD once.
Were you on any drugs (pot, LSD) when the experience you refer to occurred? How long had it been since you imbibed in narcotics when the event took place?Growing up a JW produced a lot of trauma, however I've never been on psychiatric meds. Oh, and my Aunt does have schizophrenia. Oh, and I voted for Bush 4 years ago.
I'll forgive you on the Bush thing. Do you or have you had any schizophrenic tendencies? Did you make it clear to the psychologist that a family member has schizophrenia? And, did they actually refer you to a yoga instructor, or did you do that on your own?First, I do hold a day job at Microsoft. I also put myself through college and have been on my own since I was 17. I also directed an independent film. So, I hope this counts as evidence that I do have my shit together to some degree.
To be brutally honest, that doesn't necessarily mean anything. There are millions of JWs who believe in many crazy things and they hold down a job. Some of the members of cult atrocities like Waco and Jonestown were doctors, lawyers and other well-educated, "together" people. That does not mean you didn't experience the kundalini awakening, but it by no means means that you are more credible than anyone else.Second, it's one thing to spaz out and mutter unintelligible jibberish. It's another when it correlates exactly to old buhddist and hindu tantric mantras and practices. THIS is what I think seperates the crazies from those undergoing a direct spiritual experience.
Had you ever read and/or spoken the mantras before you started to glossalate? It's always possible that you or your girlfriend "tweaked" what you said to fit the mantra, etc. That doesn't mean you're a liar, it's simply human nature to want to "fit" the experience in somehow (especially since you seem to have been very interested in this sort of thing to begin with).Third, I spent some time after these intial experiences going to a counselor, to try and figure out their origin. I had no intention of having my life screwed up and going crazy. Needless to say I had to weed my way through a lot of New Age BS before stumbling upon the truth.
Again, forgive me, but there are plenty of people reading this who will say that it is "a lot of New Age BS."Oh, and if you know anyone, I mean anyone, who could scientifically document any of this, let me know. Lie detectors, brain scans, you name it. I've talked to the University of WA and some other research centers but get no response. They probably think I'm a quack.
That would be the general impression. Ah, I'm just jesting with you. I'm more open to this sort of thing than I used to be. I just wouldn't discount that there may be other factors involved that are of a more psychological origin. Did you see multiple counselors? What type of psychologist did you see? Did they give you ANY ideas that it might be glitches in the brain? All best, Bradley -
Markfromcali
Hi Dolph,
I think our disconnect here is simple: Your talking about phenomena that people chase looking for a spiritual high and I'm talking about a specific phenomena, kundalini, which through it's phenomena/experiences to transform someone into an awakened being.
Not exactly. The point I want to make here is that regardless of whether you went looking for the experience or not, the mind has a tendancy to grasp or avert, and those extremes simply make for a more violent experience. So in terms of addressing the suffering a person might be undergoing you need to address the mental behavior of grasping and averting, which may be happening on a subtle level without you being aware of it. In other words, "you" make it into suffering. This is what I meant when I say some people are naive, because their whole identity ends up being formed around the experience - when the point is exactly the opposite. Years later you still hear them in Yahoo chat going on about the experience and they haven't a clue as to what its about. Even though the intense physical experience may have subsided, their suffering just becomes the spiritual identity of someone who had a kundalini awakening.
It sounds like you have basically the right guidance. Remember, if its about not identifying in any way, then having someone who can identify with the experience is really secondary - you know what I mean? Best to seek understanding, and that's not about having some thought as an answer.
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logansrun
dolph,
I should also point out that once a person reaches enlightenment after undergoing a kundalini awakening, all phenomena stops. Just like the others on this thread have said, the point of it all is to question and do inquiry. "Who am I"? Etc. Well after a kundalin awakening completes, you find out. And that's the end of it. No more phenomena.
So, who are you? B.
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Princess
Oh, and I voted for Bush 4 years ago.
~sigh~ so did Steve
First, I do hold a day job at Microsoft. I also put myself through college and have been on my own since I was 17. I also directed an independent film. So, I hope this counts as evidence that I do have my shit together to some degree.
Well, the Microsoft thing is questionable...
Nah, I'm just trying to mess with you people. Microsofties make up a large portion of our customer base. Love your referral network..it's awesome.
Did you grow up in the area? You look familiar but I think you just remind me of a dub friend who lived in Kirkland/Redmond for a time before jumping off to dubland...bethel.