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  Another Family With JW Ties Murdered in Oregon

  by Monica in

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  i just saw this in the news this morning.

  a father killed his family and them himself.

  this happened in mcminnvile, oregon just outside of portland, oregon.

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  Leadership is missing among the xJWs!

  by IslandWoman in

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  i know the word, "organization" has a bad taste.

  but it is a fact of life that to get anything done on a grand scale in this world, good leadership and organization are a must.. we lack organization, much of what is said and done is a hit and miss thing except for the u.n. problem.

  thanks to those who took a lead and the others who followed their lead some damn good work got done!

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  1 Timothy 2:5,6: Maybe the Greatest JW Travesty

  by Room 215 in

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  2. bible

  with the pre-memorial drums beating through dubland, it brings to my mind how the jw insistence on a literal reading of the 144,000 in revelation 7 and 14 has poisoned their entire outlook of the new testament and the teachings of christ.. although they're the most aggressive proselytizers of christendom, it's no wonder they've cooked up a host of specious rationalizations to demur on invitations to participate in public debates: they must know that their position on this bedrock teaching of christianity, i.e.

  that jesus died and was raised for all and in his position of hevenly glory, intercedes on their behalf.

  there's no question that any attempt by jws to defend their ludicrous teaching in a public forum would subject them to embarassment and well-deserved ridicule, and expose their cultishess.. and this is but the tip of the proverbial iceberg: look what the literal 144,000 does to eviscerate the power of jesus illustration of the sheep and the goats; it compels jws to equivocate on other crystal clear christian concepts, i.e the sonship of god and leading of the holy spirit.

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  does the bible condem smoking??

  by master chief in

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  think about it if the bible says we must present our bodies as a living sacrifice to god and we must be holy because god is holy is that really possible, well i would say no and do you wanna no why "well im gonna tell you anyway".well think about driving our cars we r deliberately polluting the earth which god condems,and what about the food we eat which contaminates our bodies,which i think would really corrupt our bodies,and think about it we are imperfect according to the bible so how can we make ourselves holy.also imagine a jw has aids and then is prescibed a drug which can corrupt our bodies but helps the patient with his suffering (ie:ganga is given to aids sufferers to help them to regain appetite for eating)but i suppose that would be ok for that purpose.one more thing for the last few months ive been coughing a lot and i havent smoked for years but guess what i smoked a menthol fag today and voila my coughing dissapeared so do you think the fag helped to cure this problem mmmmm i wonder if that is a sin??

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  Dont blame the witnesses, its the Bible...

  by sleepy in

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  dont blame the witnesses, its the bible's fault.. well you can blame them for trying to stick to the thing, but belief in the bible is the main problem.. i've heard the gb and witnesses be called evil by some, as though they have gone out to hurt people on purpose.. but i doubt that this is true, at least in recent times.. no the problem comes from believing the bible is god's word and trying to interpret it and follow it.. what happens when you do so?.

  you get the catholic inquisition,people burnt at the stake,you get jews fighting for a promised land, religious groups who let their children die and a host of other problems.. i ask a question.if you were god and were going to have a book written on how man should live, would you do it in such a way that if misinterpeted or taken too literaly or mistranslated slightly , could result in the death and suffering of thousands of people,and would enslave people to false religious beliefs?.

  yes there are good points and principles in the bible, mainly the words of jesus, who didn't write any of it himself.. but a few good principles don,t outweight the bad done in the name of the bible through the past 2000 years.. the society has tried to follow the bible, and take it for real .in doing so they have had to take on beliefs and ideas that can ultimatly cause harm.. it is like me reading a instruction manuel for my car, that is a fake written by a non-expert.if i follow that manuel , although it may not be all wrong, some instuctions could be in error and cause damage to my car and risk injury to other people.. if people then come along after and say "well its not the manuel thats wrong , you've just misunderstood it , look if you do it this way,that way..".

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  Ray Franz is still a slave

  by sleepy in

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  ray franz is still a slave!

  (he seems a nice bloke though).

  after reading the other post about franz today i though i'd like to talk about something that i feel about franz which can be said about many ex-witnesses.. you are still slaves of men!.

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  Raymond Franz's Betrayal

  by IslandWoman in

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  thanks for calling this to my attention.

  my reason for not wanting book material to be run on certain web sites is purely because of finding their approach out of harmony with my own principles and standards, so many are engaged in watch tower trashing and extremely negative.

  some sites present material that promotes agnosticism and distrust of the scriptures, even atheism (one such site being in scandanavia).

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  Bush is he crazy?

  by happy man in

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  what happend inn the word now?.

  us is the word police doing what they want, putting peopel in prision and bombing innocent peopel,.

  and yesterday he come upp widh a crazy idea that other countrys must pay tax on 30% iff they want to sell steel to us, and what will happend, europe must akt inn the same way, perhaps 30% on evry car imported from us, i must say i think this man is a dissaster for us.

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  Movie that could describe your experience as a jw?

  by Nicolas in

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  2. friends

  personnally, i thing that the movie "the matrix" and the movie "the truman show" really describe my experience in the wbts.

  when i discovered the truth about the "truth", my perception of the reality became really different.

  all that i have been taught was just a big lie.

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  Do you think I'll be DF'd now?

  by meat pie in

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  about three weeks ago i told a friend about the un thing, no-one else, i had known for months but didn't tell her till she brought up a similar subject.

  i gave her a printout from a guardian article, i have only had a short terse text message since.

  i know she has a lot more to lose than i did, and i stopped going to meetings last year.

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