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  Satanists, do you fear them or trash them?

  by greendawn in

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  are you afraid of the power of occultists and satanists?

  do you think their magical arts can truly harm people?

  or are you confident that their power can easily be neutralised by reciting biblical verses or by wearing a crucifix?

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  under_believer

  As a rational, I fall in with Elsewhere. They're as deluded as anyone else that believes in the supernatural. I neither fear them nor trash them.
  It's opinion, folks--take it for what it's worth (hint: very little.)
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  Dist Conv in Portland Maine

  by proandcon in

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  i attended on sat afternoon.

  points of note mentioed several times in talks:.

  pornography...still a big issue in dubdum...must be an epidemic the way they harp on it...especially porno on the web...so dubs are on the web in spite of the wt...no doubt on xjw sites also.. divorce...continues unabated by jw's all over.

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  under_believer

  Has anything happened thus far to justify all the "OMG BIG CHANGES COMING AT THE DC" buzz going down lately?
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  Was it a Nuclear bomb in JAVA

  by Tea4Two in

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  and not an earthquake?

  or just another false prophecy?

  http://www.truebiblecode.com/.

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  under_believer

  Sell crazy somewhere else. We're all stocked up here.
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  Are regular publishers more genuine in their dealings with others?

  by truthseeker in

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  having been in a few congregations, i have observed that those with nothing to prove are often the most genuine people.

  that is, brothers who aren't apointed seem to have more to say and are more interesting to talk to.. those who have position seem to have little to say other than repeat wt mantra.. with regular publishers, particualrly those who didn't reach out, i often found that they were just themselves, with no pretences.. is this something you have noticed?.

  my friend asked me last week, do weal publishers attract weak publishers?

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  under_believer

  Like any other group of humans, there are the good ones, bad ones, and (the vast majority) indifferent ones. The statement "regular publishers are more genuine in their dealings with others" cannot be supported.
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  youngest disfellowshipped???

  by loosie in

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  ok so with all this talk about geeting young people to get baptized, got me to wondering.... how young have you known someone to get disfellowshipped?.

  youngest i knew was 17 years old.

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  under_believer

  This thread is a major downer. :(
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  Most ridiculous Kingdom Melody Lyrics

  by Fleshybirdfodder in

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  a couple of my favs:.

  "loyal love, god is love, may god's love move us to love".

  "...like bees that were molested, but we can ever beat them off...".

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  under_believer

  Nosferatu, you put a lot of effort into that and it made me lol. Especially about Ian, God's other son, poor bastard. Jesus was always the favorite.
  Just wanted you to know.
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  Overheard at the Book Study

  by under_believer in

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  here are a few comments that i overheard at this week's book study (of the third chapter of the bible teach book), and the thoughts i had after hearing them: .

  conductor: "as food shortages become more and more common as the time of the end advances, they will make excellent field service points since they were predicted by the bible.

  me: great.

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  under_believer

  anewme...

  Whats really ridiculous is being kicked out and still hoping it all turns out for them.

  This isn't ridiculous. It just means you're a nice person. I found your comments moving because I, like you, feet true pity for them. And who's to say that they'd be better off without their illusions?

  Is the person deriving benefit from a placebo better off knowing that it was just a fake sugar pill, and no longer getting the benefit of the placebo effect? I don't know.
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  I have to make one of the toughest decisions of my life

  by unbeliever in

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  i am not even sure why i am posting because its so personal but i could really use some advice.

  i am also embarrassed that i got myself in this situation.

  there is this guy that i have known for a couple of years.

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  under_believer

  Hello, person whose name I appear to have aped but who has much more seniority than me.
  I am nobody and my opinion counts for nothing. Nevertheless I offer it. Take it for what it is, a worthless opinion. Your mileage may vary.
  In simple terms, RUN LIKE HELL. This individual is very controlling and is attempting to dominate and control you. You have an established career and support network. This person is trying to completly rip all of that out from underneath you and make you completely dependent on him. If you accept his offer and give into his high-pressure tactics, you will be completely at his mercy and totally under his control in every way.
  Maybe he's a nice guy, but the way you say he's treating you leads me to believe that he's not. Nice guys don't demand that women become totally dependent on them and leave everything they have ever known. I could be wrong, but it just feels off, to me.
  Right now the ball, quite literally, is in your court. You are under no legal or moral obligation to have this fellow in your life. I suggest you use this to your advantage and set the terms yourself. Don't give up everything you have worked so hard to establish--your baby will be better off with a happy if busy mother and NO father, than with a desolated mother and an overly controlling father.
  Again, it's just my worthless opinion. Please consider all avenues yourself before deciding.
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  Most ridiculous Kingdom Melody Lyrics

  by Fleshybirdfodder in

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  a couple of my favs:.

  "loyal love, god is love, may god's love move us to love".

  "...like bees that were molested, but we can ever beat them off...".

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  under_believer

  IF YOUR BODY MEMBERS YOU CONTROL

  YOU MAKE KNOWN THAT THE TRUTH IS YOUR OWN

  Well, I've definitely "mastered" them. Does that count?
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  How do you know Satan didn't write the Bible?

  by seattleniceguy in

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  the standard christian story on the bible is that god wrote it to let us humans know what's going on, lay down some rules, and tell us how to get saved from our pitiful state.

  as everyone knows, i don't buy any portion of this.

  but i have a question for the believers.

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  under_believer

  Hey jw, remember that time you plagiarized the Society, and then lied about it? Also, most board moderators consider bumping long-dead threads as spamming or abuse.