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  "This system just cannot get any worse"

  by JimmyPage in

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  that's what my dad has said at various times over many years.

  i think it helps encourage him that the end must be very near and the paradise will be here soon.

  my thought has always been "oh yes it can get a lot worse.

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  catbert

  Man #1: "I am taking that."
  Man #2: "No your not."
  
  When there is an abundance, we don't have a problem. When things become scarce, we have a problem,
  just like in the animal kingdom.
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  Do You Still Believe In Anything JWs Taught You?

  by minimus in

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  are there any beliefs that you learned from the witnesses that you still believe in?

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  catbert

  As per Genesis 7:4
  "For in just seven days more I am making it rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and I will wipe every existing thing that I have made off the surface of the ground.”
  
  
  I believe that Noah brought all 100,000 known species of beatles on the ark, and that God killed everything that lived on the face of the earth with a flood, because they were all bad, especially chipmunks.
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  OMG!!! I have been crying for the last 2 hours...I just got Pell grant!!!!

  by FreedomFrog in

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  pell grant is a federal grant for low income people that wants to go to college but doesn't have that much money to support it.. ok, here's my story.... my ex makes good money...i get divorced but they still use the "last" years tax...meaning, even though i'm not "making" that money anymore "too bad".. i've been in college for 2 1/2 years now, ending my first degree, signing up for my ba.... i was just approved for pell grants and "other" federal assistance for college!!!!!!!!.

  i've been after them for 2 years and it's finally arrived.... what does that mean for me????.

  my loans won't be 15,000 per degree but rather more like 4,000....i don't have to worry about buying my books anymore.

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  catbert

  You want to be a child psychologist?
  
  
  Does child psychology work on immature adults?
  
  If so, you may be able to help me.
  
  I will start by telling you about my mother.
  
  My mother was the "alpha male" in my family, and was (and is) a very devout member of a sect called "Jehovah's Witnesses".
  
  Do you need any more information?
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  MY LETTER of disassociation from JWD

  by journey-on in

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  2. friends

  decades ago, when my brother was a teenager and i a young 20 something year old full of the truth, he got disfellowshipped for inappropriate behavior with his 17-year old girlfriend.

  he cried.

  i remember it like it was yesterday.

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  catbert

  "BurnTheShips" was banned.
  
  I would say this forum was a big part of his life.
  
  He is probably really sad now.
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  "Modern Bibles" Are Based on Wescott and Hort - Who Were They? Part I

  by Perry in

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  2. bible

  these manuscripts were available to the king james translators but were rejected because of the thousands of disagreements with each other as well as disagreement with between 95% to 99% of all other ancient manuscripts.

  additionally, they were very messy with many marginal notations and scratch outs, etc.

  but even if they are, many have shown that older is not an adequate criteria for determining accuracy.

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  catbert

  Perry,
  
  How about Genesis 7:4?
  How should that read?
  What is the most accurate interpretation for that very important verse?
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  looking inside

  by myownsaviorthankyoumuch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was wondering if there is anyone on this board, that asides from leaving the witness mind reform program,

  has also brushed off all religions as a whole?

  and began looking inwards for answers instead?

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  catbert

  You have to accept the Jews as Gods chosen people. They did, and they wrote about it.
  
  The JW's also accept themselves as being God's chosen people, and they also write about it.
  
  It takes a lot of insight to see when you are chosen.
  
  Insight: penetrating mental vision or discernment; faculty of seeing into inner character or underlying truth.
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  State Truthful Facts About JWs That Make Them Look Bad, Weird, Foolish

  by minimus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you don't need to exaggerate the foibles of jws to get the point across that they are not "the truth".

  can you state some facts that show that jehovah's witnesses are not "normal' and that their religion is weird and simply abnormal?.

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  catbert

  Jesus found them to be the one true religion when he made his inspection in 1918.
  
  Russell was obsessed with pyramids.
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  The Book Study reader's cellphone went off ....

  by Frequent_Fader_Miles in

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  .... during the book study.

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  it was bad enough he forgot to turn off his cellphone before the study began, but to make things worse he had a kingdumb malady [of all things] as his ringtone!!!

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  catbert

  The melody to this would be a cool ringtone:
  
  We’re Jehovah’s Witnesses; We speak out in fearlessness.
  Ours is the God of true prophecy; What He foretells comes to be.
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  update...husband made appt. with the elders, what do you think of this?....

  by New light for you in

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  ok... so my husband felt bad that the elders wanted to meet with us and he wasn't responding... so he set it up for saturday at 2 even though everyone said dont meet with them.

  oh ya, and everyone said not to meet with them at your house, but again, he didn't want to rock the boat.

  it's funny, though he was the first one to leave, he's still afraid and doesn't want to "raise any red flags" he's willing to just say "we're discouraged, can you just leave us alone fora while" feel free to yell at him (robert7).. here's the thing.

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  catbert

  Use "caller ID" on your phone and don't answer the door when they come. "Disconnect" from them, or should I say diassociate, disfellowship the elders.
  That will give you time to make up your mind. People here say they won't quit hounding you. I get phone calls from telemarketers
  and such, and I let the voicemail answer. And I look out the window before I answer the door. You don't owe them anything.
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  ARE YOU AN INTELLECTUAL? Why not?

  by Terry in

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  i think i heard the word "intellectual" for the first time when i was less than ten years old.. my grandmother said to me that the presidential candidate for the democratic party (adalai stevenson) was an "intellectual".. the way she said the word...the timbre of her voice...the look of admiration on her face...led me to believe this was a good thing indeed!.

  i think i may have asked her what the word meant, but, i don't recall exactly what she told me.

  perhaps enough to confirm that this fellow stevenson was a "thinker" of admirable stature.. fast forward.. by the time my teen years came along there was a kind of dichotomy in society between so-called "eggheads" and common folk.

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  catbert

  I am facinated by learning new things now that I am an "independant thinker".
  
  I am not a smart man, but I know what love is...
  
  I think it is a mistake for people like me who don't have high intellect to not persue knowledge of all sorts.
  
  One thing I think is very important: It is at least as important to see when something is not true as it is to find truth.
  
  One argument a JW might use is "Well if its not 'The Truth', then what do you have that is better?"
  Not a relevent question. Throw away the lies and untruths. You don't need to replace them with anything.