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  Were there any "dynasties" in your congregation?

  by truthseeker in

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  did your congregation have any so-called dynasties, or "a succession of rulers who belong to the same family for generations"?.

  my last congregation had a family who had or seemed to have complete control over most aspects of congregation operations.

  they like to run the show and make it obvious that they are in charge.. then there are those who receive unearned privileges because their father is an elder who fast tracked his son to eldership.. .

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  lancelink

  barrington Illinois had the Scott clan ruling for quite a number of years.
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  What was the stupidest advice you ever taken from the Kingdom Hall?

  by asilentone in

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  We were told by two elders, "no Sara will not be resurrected, she never took her first breath, so in God’s eyes she was never a living soul”. L

  Freeman, I'm sorry that they put you throught this, my Mother had two miscarriages while i was growing up and the elders told her pretty much
  the same thing.
  
  But three years ago, one of these elders has a daughter who lost her baby at 7 months, and he orchestrated a "memorial talk" at the KH for the baby.
  I wouldn't go, because of what he told my mom 38 years ago. 
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  What books would you have picked ?

  by lancelink in

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  i recently was watching the 1960's version of the "time machine" starring rod taylor as george wells.. at the end of the movie when george disappears into the future for good, his friend mr. filby, (alan young) and the housekeeper look at the bookcase and notice that three books are missing.. filby asks, "what three books would he take to restart a civilisation"?.

  what three books do you think he took with him ?.

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  I recently was watching the 1960's version of the "Time Machine" starring Rod Taylor as George Wells.

  At the end of the movie when George disappears into the future for good, his friend Mr. Filby, (Alan Young) and the housekeeper look at the bookcase and notice that three books are missing.

  Filby asks, "what three books would he take to restart a civilisation"?

  What three books do you think he took with him ?
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  snubbed by the dubs...

  by undercover in

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  2. friends

  as most of ya'll know, i'm not dfd or dad, just faded and i've commented about how i still have some contact with some jws that i used to associate with.

  only on rare occassions do jws that i didn't know that well to begin with treat me as persona non grata...no big deal, i usually couldn't remember their names to begin with so it wasn't like i was being shunned by family or friends.. this story begins at the mall, where i was with my wife (*sbm), not my favorite place to be...but the sacrifices we have to make sometimes...you married guys know.... anyhoo, we're in a common area near the food court, deciding if we wanted to get a snack or just hold out for real food in a real restaurant somewhere else, when a "sister" we've known for years spots my wife and comes up.

  we've known this person for over 20 years...we go way back.

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  why did you let them have the upper hand in the conversation ?

  Since you were not in a KH, or AH, standing there and making your presence known, getting involved with their conversation and refusing them the satisfaction of their "religious rightousness" I believe would have made much more of an impact then walking away and allowing them to play out their little superiority role-playing.
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  My wounds opened up badly today

  by Maddie in

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  the past three weeks having been so stressful and very sad.

  my ex husband died after being in hospital for just over a week in intensive care.. i was just 18 and he was 21 when we first met and after a whirlwind romance we married 6 months later and have two sons together who are now adults.

  although our marriage ended after 25 years and i remarried 7 years ago, he was my first love and i knew him for most of my life.

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  I'm so sorry, and I also am speechless at the way you are being treated.
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  Anyone know about this pro JW website?

  by middleman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  looks interesting.... .

  http://www.scripturaltruths.com/.

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  lancelink

  Our death is no different than the death of an animal, the end result being the same for both. All is “all vanity” in death, for “all go to one place” and “all return to dust.” It does not matter what we might do now, this outcome will be the same for everyone unless the end comes first. This does not mean we have no hope beyond death, for we do in the resurrection.

  I remember as a witness telling people who lost a loved one in death pretty much the same thing..In fact when my grandmother died a certain fanatical sisiter came to the funeral, stood me in front of the coffin and told me in no uncertain terms that she was dead, and would soon awaken after armageddon

  yet since my Mom died back in September I have been attended a grief support group at the local hospital. Many who were in this group had no main religious belief, And as I listened to their stories, and situations I was struck by how different each one of them grasped the entire concept of death.

  I would sometimes step back as an experiment, and revert to the JW mindset and think how they were wrong, and that there is only ONE condition of the dead,, the one that the WTS spells out.

  As the weeks progressed i slowly began to realize how inhumane, and cold it would be to crush the hope that someone is leaning on at their difficult time. I remember the witnesses at my old hall cruising the obituary column of the paper, looking for people to write letters to and count it as FS time.

  looking back, I see that there is a major part of humanity missing from people who do things like that, now I look at people who have lost loved ones as very fragile, and they no doubt reevaluate their beliefs and find great comfort in certain aspects of their faith.

  having someone come along with a "My religion alone knows what the Bible says attitude" is very uncaring.

  Something is emotionally missing from people who claim to be 100% right, and know everything that the bible says,,, It is a personal journey for each one of us.
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  MS NOT D/F ?

  by lostjdub93 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know of a case where a ms is living net door to his mother and father.

  his dad is a elder and mom is a long time pioneer.

  he no longer attends meetings and has many "wild" parties and also has a live in girlfriend.

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  Its not what you do or what you know.

  It's who you know and what THEY do !
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  Another 'gag me' email

  by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

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  funny how these people think that jehovah will arrange for a backhoe to fill a basement, or a storm to knock down a tree that the city won't let you remove, but doesn't prevent his young servants from being sexually abused, or whatever.. (gag-me email follow).

  does jehovah know what is going on, and does he help?.

  (as told by bro.

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  Funny,,,, I heard every one of these stories back in the early 80's.

  I heard them from our po.
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  Theocratic Warfare: Thinking Out Loud About "Truth", "Lies" and "Characterization"

  by gubberningbody in

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  entities, like the gb don't exist.

  people do.

  entities don't make decisions.

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  lancelink

  "LOL and all under the guise of 1951's 'pure religion'......yet tainted by men's greed and lust.

  We are the Catholic Church of Rutherford's era!"

  Nope, sorry ! You are the Catholic church of Rutherfords era,,, Many on this site and myself are no longer any part of it
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  This Thread Is For Elders & Those Affected By Them

  by minimus in

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  as an ex- elder, i can look back and see all the power and control we had as "shepherds".

  when i was an elder i genuinely tried to comply with anything "mother" demanded of us.

  i would reason that since "mother knows best", i would comply with the organization, even if it didn't quite seem so fair or right.. as time went by, i could not help but see the unfairness of soooo many rules and regulations.

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  lancelink

  There was an elder from my old hall, J. renfrow and man was he an idiot !

  he had the reputation as the local pedophile because he was ALWAYS encouraging the young (under 17) sisters.

  if you were a brother, he would ignore you totally unless you were pioneering with the goal of bethel service.

  And guess what,, most members of the hall thought he was a total fool,, but he was a business partner with the PO (redman) and every single

  one of his creepy traits was overlooked.

  The good old boys club in action.