i have been virtually non-stop studying everything i can get my hands on with regards the wtbts, and "apostate" literature and information.
in all honesty, 80% at least is non-sense and over critical.
however, i do find about 20% (if i have to create a percentage reference) is appropriate in its line of reasoning and questioning.
Unlike Mormons (Joseph Smith etc), the WTBTS has never claimed to be a "prophet". They only claim that they try to interpret prophecy left by others in the bible. Therefore, these dates should not ever be viewed as "prophecy's unfulfilled" but rather "failed interpretation". There is a huge difference between those statements.
johnnyc:
I will submit to you that you haven't done ENOUGH reading of Apostate literature, if your comment above reflects your true feelings.
-LWT
this will be our second christmas since leaving the wts but we will be away in nz with besty's extended family so probably won't bother much with trees and decorations but the santa issue is playing on my mind, especially now podlet no.
1 is at preschool.. do we bring the children up to believe in santa & co with all the magic, mystery and excitement associated with the fairytale or do we tell him right away what the deal is - either route is going to feel very strange.
my gut feeling is to go along with the myth and give them those happy memories of wonder and anticipation - what do you all think?.
I've never met an adult who had been scarred by Santa Claus.
I also remember telling a 2nd grade classmate that Santa wasn't real, and he started crying like a baby. (My older brother had already revealed the truth to me. We were not JWs at the time.)
https://knol.google.com/k/paul-morrison/why-jehovahs-witnesses-shun-people/290ks3g12r97j/3#.
feel free to post a reply at the bottom.... helpful discussions are not found at that website or other antijw sites.
i heard that it is shutting down because it collapsed from its own hatred that it creates.
This is so typical of many JW apologists that I've seen online.
They create an alternate reality -- in their own minds -- in which they can cherry-pick the JW rules they agree with, ignoring the ones they have a problem with.
As evidenced by the fact that they "associate with Apostates", they are not following the JW rules. They are "unfaithful in what is little" and therefore, in the eyes of the dogma, disapproved.
Let's hope that others will read the back and forth between you and the apologists, and learn some real truth.
-LWT
we seems to me that world news has become totally dominated by the global financial crisis.
the world will be looking to obama when he takes office to see what he has planed to address the problems in the us housing, financial and automotive sectors.
it strikes me that as soon as we see the signs of impending financial hard times, our leaders jump to the rescue.
i, as most persons, think a sexual assault of a child is a very horrible thing.
like most parents, i would want to put the person to death that assaulted my child in that way, but is that just?
i'm two ways about it: i feel for the child, and the child's family; but at the same time i am wondering if it is deserving of death?
Amen, beks.
I have a saying for that situation: "They better hope the Sheriff's Dept. gets there first...."
-LWT
(include a youtube video if possible).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-2tnp9whdu.
Elvis Presley - Blue Christmas
more than last year??
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what will your total probably be?.
This will be my first Christmas, since leaving the cult. We're going to keep things simple.
well i finally decided to send my letter to the boe.
it was a decent letter, i just stated that i no longer cared to be a jw,and that i enjoyed my time .
in the org, but it was time to move on.
My DA letter included the following paragraph:
I do not wish to receive any phone calls, letters or personal visits to discuss my decision to disassociate myself. Further, in the event of my death, I do not wish to be remembered as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. In addition, I am making the request that you not attempt to proselytize my children in any way.
It's been more than six months. I haven't heard a peep from them.
-LWT
just been having a flick through the dec 15 & jan 15 jw only watchtowers.
(and no - i dont know how to pdf them or anything else!).
unusually there isnt a single mention glorifying the fads - in fact , jehovahs channel or any other similar expression isnt referenced at all (other than a single scriptural reference in the review of revelation in the dec 15th issue.).
If they cease being a destructive cult, they cease to exist.
after reading "combatting cult mind control" and "crisis of conscience" i wondered what i would read next.
i really enjoyed "coc" and i saw a lot of posts on jwd that mentioned how "in search of" helps jws overcome their aversion to birthdays and holidays.
i feel like that's what i need now to help fully deprogram myself.
I think you'll enjoy ISOCF. Ray deconstructs many of the core beliefs of JWs, using the Bible. The chapter on the "Misuse of Disfellowshipping" and the chapter on Blood are both excellent.
