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  NOT on JW.ORG: Who currently owns the Judges' Beth Sarim 4440 Braeburn Rd San Diego ca 92116?

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the other thread on the judge rutherfords death lead me to google beth sarim at 4440 braeburn rd., in san diego ca.

  nice digs on google earth.

  the home next door is over $800,000 on zillow and trulia.

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  I recall there was a clause on it that it should never be sold because it belonged to the Princes, but then it got sold - in the 1940's?

  My recollection is vague until I can access some search tools.

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  Interesting Youtube video: "Jehovah's Witnesses and hedge funds revisited"

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhn7xzopyii.

  according to this, the uk branch made a cool million pounds from investments...which implies theyve much more invested.

  i know very little about financial stuff.

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  Was it last weeks WT study or the week before which had the example of someone who invested in the markets and lost his home?

  The point was not lost on my congregation: investments are for the greedy and weak. They are from satan so do not be tempted to gamble.

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  Suspected Jehovah's Witnesses attacked by pitbull in the preaching work

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtrdafq0xac.

  i guess this sort of thing is bound to happen, even though the society implies that angels are out there protecting jehovah's witnesses from harm.. interestingly, it wasn't an angel who came to the rescue, but a "worldly" bystander with his gun.. .

  cedars.

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  LITS what a horrible story, to have others put you in danger because of their irrational, reckless and irresponsible retardedness.

  I am well known for not doing houses where there are dog signs. I just quote Pr 22:3 (above) and suggest if they are that concerned they will have to do it themselves.

  There's no way I would be bullied into it, I would bully them back. Easier for me since I have external genitalia so am allowed to speak out strongly.

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  Anyone have a record of lies told by the WT.

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  example, in print (may 22, 1969 wt, you will never die).. bold face lies, to show that this organization have been lying.

  out of their rear since day one.

  be denied.

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  JOHANNES GREBER (SPIRITUALIST) IS A QUOTABLE SOURCE FOR THE WTBTS

  NO - w55 10/1 p. 603 par. 33 Part 3—What Do the Scriptures Say About "Survival After Death"?

  It comes as no surprise that one Johannes Greber, a former Catholic clergyman, has become a spiritualist and has published the book entitled "Communication with the Spirit World, Its laws and Its Purpose." (1932, Macoy Publishing Company, New York)

  NO - w56 2/15 p. 110 par. 10 Triumphing over Wicked Spirit Forces

  Says Johannes Greber in the introduction of his translation of The New Testament, copyrighted in 1937: “I myself was a Catholic priest, and until I was forty-eight years old had never as much as believed in the possibility of communicating with the world of God’s spirits. The day came, however, when I involuntarily took my first step toward such communication, and experienced things that shook me to the depths of my soul.

  YES - w62 9/15 p. 554 par. 5 "The Word"—Who Is He? According to John

  Similar is the reading* by a former Roman Catholic priest: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. This was with God in the beginning. Everything came into being through the Word, and without it nothing created sprang into existence." (John 1:1-3)

  *The New Testament—A New Translation and Explanation Based on the Oldest Manuscripts, by Johannes Greber (a translation from German into English), edition of 1937.

  YES - w75 10/15 p. 640 Questions From Readers

  Thus the translation by Johannes Greber (1937) renders these verses: "Tombs were laid open, and many bodies of those buried there were tossed upright. In this posture they projected from the graves and were seen by many who passed by the place on their way back to the city."

  YES - w76 4/15 p. 231 Insight on the News

  A report in the Bible, as translated by Johannes Greber, says that when Jesus died, "the earth quaked, and the rocks were shattered..."

  NO - w83 4/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers

  As indicated in a foreword to the 1980 edition of The New Testament by Johannes Greber, this translator relied on “God’s Spirit World” to clarify for him how he should translate difficult passages. It is stated: "His wife, a medium of God’s Spiritworld was often instrumental in conveying the correct answers from God’s Messengers to Pastor Greber." The Watchtower has deemed it improper to make use of a translation that has such a close rapport with spiritism. (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) The scholarship that forms the basis for the rendering of the above-cited texts in the New World Translation is sound and for this reason does not depend at all on Greber’s translation for authority. Nothing is lost, therefore, by ceasing to use his New Testament.

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  Suspected Jehovah's Witnesses attacked by pitbull in the preaching work

  by cedars in

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  2. friends

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtrdafq0xac.

  i guess this sort of thing is bound to happen, even though the society implies that angels are out there protecting jehovah's witnesses from harm.. interestingly, it wasn't an angel who came to the rescue, but a "worldly" bystander with his gun.. .

  cedars.

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  At 01:47 "BEWARE OF DOG".

  (Pr 22:3) Shrewd is the one that has seen the calamity and proceeds to conceal himself, but the inexperienced have passed along and must suffer the penalty.

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  Is this true? Do the elders really do it like this?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  2. friends

  i put this week's wt paragraph about disfellowshipping on my fb page and said how poor robert's family didn't even check to see whether he was dead or alive in 16 years and a friend of mine of the 'conscious class' commented about how unchristian she felt disfellowshipping to this degree is, and i agreed.. another friend, and uber-jw who has a host of illnesses and yet pioneers, who everytime she and her husband go to another congregation, if he's not appointed within three years they move to another and try for an appointment there - he used to be an elder and no one is willing to promote him again- replied to my thread.

  now keep in mind she has a dfd son and she doesn't even know whether he is dead or alive, because she follows the wt to the tee.

  she replied, among other things,with this:.

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  Shepherd the Flock of God (2010) p.91

  9. While there is no such thing as automatic disfellowshipping, an individual may have gone so far into sin that be may not be able to demonstrate sufficient repentance to the judicial committee at the time of the hearing. If so, he must be disfellowshipped.

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  STAY AWAY FROM MY KINDGOM HALL," LORD'S EVENING MEAL" INVITATIONS REVOKED!!!!!

  by AuntConnie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am very angry, pent-up rage call it!

  so you will understand why and with great ease this subject is able to flow off my tongue onto the keyboard, because this time of the year is worse than your christmas time jitters!

  anxiety, stress, compulsive babbling nuts are invading our service groups!

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  Yaaaaaaawwwwwwnnnn.

  Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
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  Elders! Elders everywhere!

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an elder came around this morning at 9am to ask if my husband wanted to come with him on a bible study.

  my husband nipped from the bathroom to the bedroom in his undies to get dressed, while i talked to the elder!

  the elder talked about how he just happened to think my husband might be free this morning, and just happened to get a call from someone wanting a bible study, and then he said to me, "why don't you come visit my house some time?

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  The concept of 'boundaries' doesn't exist. I've had elders just come straight out and ask me how much I earn at work. Splash.
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  AUSTRALIA | Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Australia | Corporate Governance Documents published in PDF (March 2013)

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw leaks has published a large number of the latest (march 2013) corporate governance documents relating to the watchtower bible and tract society of australia, jehovah's witnesses congregations (australia), and watchtower travel (australia).. .

  these documents, all available to download in pdf, include:.

  official company extract (9 page australian government report)company summary (including current list of all directors)australian business number detailswatchtower bible and tract society of australia trading as "watchtower travel"watchtower bible and tract society of australia trading as "jehovah's witnesses" .

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  Winced in pain??

  Lol

  I like that they are allowed to drop Ltd from the name.

  Can you imagine, WTBTS Ltd ?

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  Are the Witnesses Really Losing Their Young People?

  by What Now? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  that article about jehovah's witnesses having the lowest retention rate for born ins keeps popping up every now again ... i'm just curious if any of you have noticed that this is actually the case.

  in the congregation that i grew up in, i'm going to say that 95% of the young people in their teens to mid twenties are either regular pioneering, regular auxiliary pioneering, serving in foreign language congregations or where the need is greater.

  both of my younger sisters are regular pioneers - and the young people in their hall even organize 8 pm to midnight service on friday nights of their own accord.

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  Well things they are a-changing.

  There is directive from above that the older ones you are used to seeing take charge/give talks at the CA's and SAD's are being replaced with younger elders.

  Any older department heads will also be replaced.

  Any new CO's will now be younger brothers (relatively speaking).

  This is being implemented with immediate effect and may contribute to encouraging the youth to get more involved themselves.

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