Posts by Apognophos

65

The Watchtower 3/15/2015 Parables! New Understanding! plus More!

by wifibandit in

http://imgur.com/a/e6dos.

.

Apognophos

They should have added on the cover: "The Faithful And Discreet Slave: Now 25% Discreeter"

AnnOMaly: Actually I don't think this would affect their interpretation of Daniel 4. I haven't read the articles, but based on what I've read here, they are only disparaging the approach to antitypes where an additional future meaning is inserted into a literal account, like the example of Jacob's red stew prefiguring Jesus' blood, or assigning meaning to aspects of a parable which Jesus did not probably intend to be significant. Read this again:

Where the Scriptures teach that an individual, an event, or an object is typical of something else, we accept it as such. Otherwise, we ought to be reluctant to assign an antitypical application to a certain person or account if there is no specific Scriptural basis for doing so.

So because Daniel 4's dream is interpreted by Daniel to be typical of Nebuchadnezzar's reign, the Society can also assign an antitype to that dream to represent the Gentile times. Does that make sense?

33

"The Friends"

by FeelingFree in

i have only come across this term very recently on jwn and in an "apostate" video i watched yesterday.

never have i heard anyone refer to jw's as "the friends" here in the uk.

is it just used in america?.

Apognophos

I don't really see the big deal here. It just like saying "folks". What word would you suggest in its place?

30

Will the Societies tighten their grip even more with the power slipping?

by thedepressedsoul in

i think its pretty clear that the gb are power hungry.

you cannot listen to the branch visit and not see clear as day that there are some of them that are loving the power.

it showed the clearest with anthony morris.. now all these sex abuse scandals and news media are taking their power away.

Apognophos

Like _Morpheus, I can't really get behind the premise of the thread.

34

JW.bore invades my vacation?!?

by darth frosty in

jw
friends

just got back from a cruise and dubs were walking around the boat faithfully wearing their jw.bore pins smdh.

than at cozumel i saw these lovely sisters.

.

Apognophos

I am embarrassed for my gender

37

If you don't have an "electronic device" you aren't ready for service!

by LostGeneration in

from the feb 2015 km, page 2:.

have a publisher demonstrate how he.

prepares for the ministry by reviewing the tracts,.

Apognophos

The old folks are going digital too! I see no age bias in the technolust that was unleashed in the Hall once tablets started being promoted for showing videos to householders.

40

What Was Your Body of Elders Like?

by minimus in

jw
friends

were they pretty much a good group of men?

we're they jerks?.

Apognophos

Some of the guys were sweethearts, some were clueless. Just men. Our elders were deluded or fakes. One told the truth about 1975 and got kicked out.

Can you relate more details about what he said, JWdaughter? It's surprising that he would get removed just for acknowledging the Society wrote things about 1975, if that's what you mean.

75

Media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from ABC News New York

by Londo111 in

http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

see last item:.

"media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from abc news new york".

Apognophos

Haha, oh my, that's funny and an appealing idea. There is a decent chance that the supplied email address will first be asked to confirm that it wants notifications, but that's still something.

93

AAWA activists burst into a Kingdom Hall in Kent!

by raymond frantz in

aawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.

.

Apognophos

When was the last time virtually everyone here agreed on something? That tells you how much these AAWA-or-not-AAWA guys screwed up

40

What Was Your Body of Elders Like?

by minimus in

jw
friends

were they pretty much a good group of men?

we're they jerks?.

Apognophos

The congregation I grew up in had a well-liked elder body. They seemed like upright guys. The congregation was squeaky-clean, so it's hard for me to know if they were strict or not, because very little ever happened that warranted a JC. It's probably a large part of why it took so long for me to start seeing the cracks in the foundation of the religion, because the congregation was so pleasant. The BOE was also maybe 50% Bethelites, so everything was kept in shipshape and the brothers had a perfect orthodox understanding of all the doctrines.

Then I moved somewhere further from the headquarters, and that BOE seemed like it was 50% good old boys who didn't have much of a clue what they were doing. Any whispering among publishers to the effect that they were not doing their job properly was met with self-righteous rebukes from the elders, and at least one marking talk.

48

Genuine repentance - if you can fake that you'll avoid getting disfellowshipped

by slimboyfat in

to paraphrase a well known saying.

is it true, in a judicial committee, if you can fake repentance, then they are likely to let you off being disfellowshipped, almost regardless of the "severity" of the sin involved?

can former elders and perhaps victims of the process shed light on the matter?

Apognophos

You know what's interesting about the lack of mercy being shown in many DFing stories we've heard on JWN? When someone at a company screws up and the screw-up is known publicly, the company often fires them just to avoid controversy. Sometimes they didn't even mess up badly, but someone complained that they said something offensive. Doesn't matter, they're gone, and the company is already washing their hands of the incident. It's a way for them to "make a statement" about where they stand on something, in order to save face. Now, if someone only screws up privately, well... we've all worked at companies where there's a guy who perpetually screws up everything he touches, and everyone internal to the company knows it, and somehow he still holds onto his job.

So then we have the judicial situation at the Kingdom Hall: if you screw up and it's not widely publicized, you get reproved privately, or at worst publicly, and lose some privileges for a while. Not a big deal. If what you did is in the local newspaper, well, you're pretty much up Disfellowshipping Creek without a paddle. Anyone else see any similarities? Not only Jesus, but even Chuck Russell would be spinning in his grave to find out that the religious movement he founded now works just like a compassionless corporation that treats its members as expendable resources.