The Scotsman...this thread is started for you if you wish to comment....

by FreedomFrog 116 Replies latest jw friends

  • FreedomFrog
    FreedomFrog
    Jehovah has always "gradually" revealed his purpose to mankind.

    I can understand your point...and it's a very good one...but it should be consistant then. There are cases where the Society taught one way changed it to a different understanding because of "New Light"..but then went back to the original statement. That would be going backwards instead of "gradually" teaching.

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  • SnakesInTheTower
    SnakesInTheTower

    I for one, am glad scotsman is posting.... reminds me why Im here.....and why Im trying to get out..

    Scotsman... I was where you are not that long ago, maybe 5 years ago...but I have opened my eyes to see what I wish was not true. I want this (JW beliefs) to be the Truth! I spent my whole life believing it hook, line, and sinker...raised in it..... I have commented elsewhere on this forum about this...who doesnt want all the promises of the WT to come true (paradise, live forever, see dead loved ones, perfect health)...but its all a fantasy..and...

    ...Once you realize you have been hoodwinked by a man made religious publishing corporation, you feel like someone hit you in the gut and wont stop.

    I respect your desire to defend the JW beliefs...I would have been at your side not long ago....

    ... but if you are here, then you either a) have doubts yourself about JW beliefs or b) are ignoring the faithful slave by being here and you should hurry up and immediately turn yourself in to the local BOE for a session of kind counsel serious Judicial Committee Ass Whoopin about the dangers of the internet apostate sites. (but we wont turn you in...we want you here.. LOL)

    sincerely... SnakesInTheTower (of the "Fading at an accelerated rate" Sheep Class)

  • The Scotsman
    The Scotsman

    << There are cases where the Society taught one way changed it to a different understanding because of "New Light"..but then went back to the original statement. That would be going backwards instead of "gradually" teaching.>>

    Could you provide an example??

    I am not aware of such a situation, or if it has happened it must have been fairly minor.
    And even if it has happened, does that undermine all teachings of Jehovahs People?

    Of course not.

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  • Bob Loblaw
    Bob Loblaw

    "Jehovah has always "gradually" revealed his purpose to mankind. John was given the Revelation - but did he understand it all? No. Why? He did not need to know." Sure John didn't understand it all, but those words he was inspired to write down haven't changed. The "inspired" words the GB has written down have changed a myriad of times.

  • fullofdoubtnow
    fullofdoubtnow
    Jehovah has always "gradually" revealed his purpose to mankind.

    Can you back that statement up with a scripture, and don't quote Prpverbs 4:18, which is used out of context by the watchtower, and if read in context from verse 14 is obviously referring to the differrent outcomes for the wicked and the righteous, and has nothing to do with revealed scriptural knowledge

  • fullofdoubtnow
    fullofdoubtnow

    << There are cases where the Society taught one way changed it to a different understanding because of "New Light"..but then went back to the original statement. That would be going backwards instead of "gradually" teaching.>>

    Could you provide an example??

    Here's a few

    Flip-Flops

    As the Watchtower is Jehovah’s only selected organization on earth which is guided by his holy spirit, why is it that the Watchtower keep changing their understanding of his words in the Bible? Once would be acceptable, twice, three times or even 6 times is not.

    When ever the Watchtower changes it’s mind on an issue it uses the “New Light” mantra very effectively with its loyal members as it always manages to keep the rank and file Jehovah’s Witnesses happy. However, surely the “New Light” mantra can only work for the first time a doctrine changes. How, can you go from ‘New Light’ to ‘Old light’, back to ‘New light’ and then go back to the ‘Old Light’ again.

    Would Jehovah really lead his own organization in such a manner?

    Would he want his organization to embarrass him in such a manner?

    Watchtower, 1973 July 1st p.402


    Jehovah’s organization alone, in all the earth, is directed by God’s holy spirit or force (Zech,4:6) Only this organization functions for Jehovah’s purpose and to his praise. To it alone God’s Sacred Word, the Bible, is not a sealed book.
    [...]
    How very much true Christians appreciate associating with the only organization on earth that understands the ‘deep things of God’! Direction by God’s spirit enables Jehovah’s servants to have divine light in a world of spiritual darkness.

    Who is The 'Lord' as mentioned in Romans 10:12-16

    • 1903 - 'Lord' refers to Jesus.
    • 1940 - 'Lord' refers to Jehovah.
    • 1978 - 'Lord' refers to Jesus.
    • 1980 - 'Lord' refers to Jehovah.

    Will the people of Sodom and Gomorrah be eligible for resurrection

    • 1879 - Will be resurrected
    • 1955 - Will not be resurrected
    • 1965 - Will be resurrected
    • 1967 - Will not be resurrected
    • 1974 - Will be resurrected
    • 1988 - Will not be resurrected
    • 1988 - Will be resurrected
    • 1989 - Will not be resurrected

    Is Blood, Blood serum and blood fractions allowed

    • 1940 Blood transfusions are acceptable
    • 1945 Blood transfusion are not acceptable
    • 1956 Blood serums should be treated as blood and are banned
    • 1958 Blood serums and fractions acceptable
    • 1959 Storage of own blood unacceptable
    • 1961 Blood fractions are not acceptable
    • 1964 Blood fractions are acceptable
    • 1974 Blood serums are personal choice
    • 1975 Hemophilia treatments (Factor VII & IX) are not acceptable
    • 1978 Hemophilia treatments (Factor VII & IX) are acceptable
    • 1982 Albumin is acceptable
    • 1983 Hemodilution is acceptable
    • 1990 Hemodilution is not acceptable (Blood Brochure)
    • 1995 Hemodilution is acceptable

    Who are the ‘ Higher Powers' mentioned at Romans 13:1

    • 1916 - 'Higher powers' refers to governments.
    • 1943 - 'Higher powers' refers to Jehovah God & Jesus Christ.
    • 1964 - 'Higher powers' refers to governments.

    When will the Separating of the 'sheep and goats' take place (Matt. 25:31-46)

    • 1919 - will take place after the time of tribulation
    • 1923 - is taking place now, before the tribulation.
    • 1995 - will take place after the tribulation.

    http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/flip-flops.html

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