how far will it go?.....never mind the mormons "baptism of the dead"....make way for the JW's "disassociation of the dead".......anything you can do ..we can do cultier...we can do anything cultier than you.....no you can't ...yes we can.....yes we caaaan...yes we caaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!!!
DF'ing and DA'ing procedural change in the horizon
by iloowy 285 Replies latest members private
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Mandette
Is there any date on this material? My elder father hasn't said a word about this. I would think he would especially since I'm a "fader". And both he and my Mom want me back in the organization so badly.
Hopefully this is not true......Like many others here, I'm a fader for the sake of my parents.
Mandette
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passwordprotected
@ninja - yes we can, and we'll DF if you if you disagree, mmmmkay?
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stillajwexelder
if true - brilliant - but disgusting
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PrimateDave
I can see how this would work and be accepted by the rank and file. Don't expect the org. to do you any favors just because you are fading.
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PrimateDave
Reading the link to the Spanish forum, I see the text from the email is virtually the same as that provided on this forum by the OP. No further translation needed, imo. One of the posters on that forum mentioned the appeal process for DF'd people. If disassociation by wrongdoing becomes the way the org. prefers to handle cases of "wrongdoing" within the congregations, how does one appeal their "disassociation"?
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purplesofa
I also agree with stilla, I think it is a brilliant move on the part of the organization.
Many people in other religions, even if they do not go to church regularly, profess to be of that faith. They are not expelled, nor disassociate themselves.
They can actually decide to go back to an "active" worship any time they want, with little or no hassle.
They still believed all along that they believed that was their religion.
I think the WT is getting smart and doing away with all this drama associated with DF/DA.
They still will recognize that a person has DA themselves over a certain period of time and handle the matter.
They have set a set of standards and by the actions of the individual person will show to them where they want to be.
A judicial meeting should be quit simple,(1) either the person comes forward and confesses and I have always felt if someone did that it was a cry for help, they get the necessary help from the elders and congregation.
(2)the person does not care and does not show up for the meeting.
or (3) simply states they are moving on, away from the religion.
They are recognizing they must live with the laws of the land, and CYA on these more frustrating and trivial matters and focus on bigger things.
It's all about learning how to run a business better.
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Mickey mouse
But the big difference is in legitimate religions they don't cut you off for stopping attending. Lest we forget that is the preserve of cults. Are these "D/A by default" people to be treated as a disfellowshipped person? If so this is much worse than the current state of affairs and is no doubt designed to prevent faders from talking to active witnesses.
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passwordprotected
@ninja - if this new policy does get rolled out you'll be the first for the chop, son!
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PrimateDave
I don't see this as a way for the org. to go "mainstream." This is a way for them to do exactly what they are doing right now, perhaps with a bit of streamlining of the process, but reworded to legally cover their corporate asses.
Dave