What hope is there then?

by sayitsnotso 290 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • goldensky
    goldensky

    I like Undercover's approach; Sayitsnottrue sounds quite sincere to me. He doesn't get upset either.

    Sayitsnottrue, keep it up. You're doing fine, in my opinion.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Sayitsnotso..

    Look, I have limited time. I knew that by asking that question someone would show me the link. Sorry if that means I'm lazy.

    It doesn't mean I want to have things spoon fed.

    Your time is limited..Yeah right..

    To the posts that cause you the least amount of problems with your preaching..

    If you have enough time to deal with 10 pages on 1 thread..

    You have enough time to get off your lazy ass and do your own research..

    The information is there for "Anyone" who actually is interested in finding it..

    Okay, let's run with that Idea. How would this be different than recieving a Christmas Gift?

    Your Arguement is Bullshit..

    Who gives a Rats Ass,what the occasion for the Gift was?..

    I got my shares on my Birthday..Would Christmas make a difference?..

    Would it make a difference if there was no occasion for the gift?..

    My gift destroys countrys,citys,towns and kills people for money..

    My gift is the same as the WBT$`s Gift..

    The WBT$ and I profit from War and Destruction..

    One could decide to accept or reject it and not be participating in Christmas celebrations.

    So What?..Your stating the obvious..

    How is that any different than receiving a finnacial instrument as a gift?

    Like the WBT$..My financial gift pays off,when there is War and People Die..

    Not when StarBucks serves more Coffee..

    Does that automatically mean the recipient has the same views as the giver?..

    If I take a gift that kills people for money..

    Does it matter if I have the same views as the giver of the Gift?..

    LOL!!

    Your post to me is 10lbs of shit in a 5lb bag..

    Would you care to respond?..

    ...................... ...OUTLAW

  • PSacramento
    PSacramento
    But back to the REGI U.S. thing. I found a more recent filling: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/922330/000092233009000021/form10k.htm and the WTS is not listed:

    It seems they are no longer listed, yes, which means they sold their shares and made a buck or two.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    NVL..

    I`m going to go with Undercover`s instincts for now..

    Although we definitly do have,a JW appologist..

    Hiding behind ,pretending to be"Just Interested"..

    ...................... ...OUTLAW

  • sayitsnotso
    sayitsnotso
    Fair enough sayitsnotso.

    Thank you.

    on what basis do you make the claim that the org following the GB direction is God's organization? What Biblical basis is there for such a claim that God has an appointed human channel one must identify with?

    I never made that claim. However, regarding the bibicial basis for the claim that God appointed a single human channel, there is no scripture that comes out and says the GB of the JWs is directing the org. Matthew 24:45-47 has been interperted to basically mean this but that interpertation springs from the GB themselves. I cannot deny this problem.

  • notverylikely
    notverylikely

    I`m going to go with Undecovers instincts for now..

    Probably a good idea. I did have 5 Guinesses at lunch...

  • isaacaustin
    isaacaustin

    Ok sayitsntso, that shows an openness. My sugesstion- research and ask questions- lots of them!

  • undercover
    undercover

    Okay, everybody...let's stay on this one subject.... Is the bOrg God's organization or not?

    SINS, you said you accepted the notion that the WTS/JWs is the one true religion. This religion claims to be God's organization on earth. If it's the one true religion, then this has to be true. If there is a problem with this claim, and then can be proven that they aren't God's organization, then the claim of being the one true religion is bogus as well.

  • sayitsnotso
    sayitsnotso

    Outlaw,

    I think you like to encourgage debates of an argumentitive flavor. That's fine. You certainly can feel however you want. But I thought I plainly showed that REGI U.S. was

    1. Not solely a war-investment. No more condeming than holding a mutual fund from a retirement company in Technology.
    2. Is no longer being held (something you claimed).
    3. No all comparisions are apples to apples, that can include my own. My christamas gift comparision wasn't that great. I'll admit that. Same for the Brothel one given. I think the Quicky Mart employee fits better. If the quicke mart employee either a) feels his own concience can't permit him to continue working there or b) he quits because of how others might view it (negatively), then where is the problem?
  • notverylikely
    notverylikely

    SINS, you said you accepted the notion that the WTS/JWs is the one true religion.

    So we then need to define the parameters by which one would be able to identify that one true religion.

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