Armageddon

by sayitsnotso 91 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  PSacramento

  JW doctrine says that Man was meant to live forever but because Adam sinned they were doomed to death, thus eating the fruit meant he died both spiritually and then later physically.

  As we know the spirit CAN'T die, but returns to God, so no one can die "spiritually" untill the final judgment.

  According to the written account...and only the written account...no interpretations, no additions, no nothing... God lied, the serpent told the truth.

  Well, according to written account and all that, there was a freaking talking snake !!!
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  undercover

  Well, according to written account and all that, there was a freaking talking snake

  And that's one of the more believable parts...
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  PSacramento

  And that's one of the more believable parts...

  I do wonder why the early writers decided to use such colorful metaphores and such, I mean I know that it was typcial of ancient writing, but still.
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  sacolton

  Creative writing?
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  PSacramento

  Ancient writers made stories and poems and made colorful visions in their writings and story telling to keep people Interested, that is a given, but there was always that "core element" of truth.

  Creative Writing indeed.
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  yknot

  I remember Dawg mentioning Ergot.....

  ((( thoughts???)))
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  cyberjesus

  Talking Animals in the Pentateuch ? Doublets (two stories of the same account)? Different writting styles within the same book? A good read would be

  WHO WROTE THE BIBLE? by Friedman.... it will all make sense.
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  Black Sheep

  Ancient writers made stories and poems and made colorful visions in their writings and story telling to keep people Interested, that is a given, but there was always that "core element" of truth.

  I fail to see any 'core truth' in a story about a god that gets so offended by some manky tart nibbling a perfectly good piece of fruit, when he had told her not to, that he kills every human being ever born to satisfy his psychological disorder.

  Did it ever cross your mind that the punishment was extremely disproportionate to the offending?

  There is no core truth here. These stories are just the fireside ramblings of goat herders. They're not relevant any more.
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  bobld

  No it is not.I did not ask to be born in sin.I expected to be born perfect,than I can make a free choice to worship God or not.

  My sin was pass on to me.If my Father commited murder,am I guilty of murder because of my Father. You say God provided a way out by Jesus' death,he paid the price.That is not true,because we and not

  perfect and we all die.If you are kidnapped and the kidnappers recieve the ransom that they ask ,you are freed are you not.If they

  receive the required ransom and kill you,was the ransom really a ransom.

  B
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  mindmelda

  I guess that's true if you believe in the Great Flood. However, since there's no real geological evidence of a world wide flood during human habitation of the earth, I don't. The last time the whole earth was completely under water was long before humans came on the scene.

  Believe me, something like that would be more obvious than the K-T boundary layer in the earth telling us that a meteorite hit the earth around the same time the dinosaurs went extinct by unusually large amount of iridium (an element found mainly in meteorites) in the soil layer, also know as The Alvarez Hypothesis.

  I do believe that a quite large, catatrophic local flood, which IS totally possible, that wiped out large numbers of settlements, may have happened and given rise to the biblical flood myth. It's theorized that this ancient flood might have shaped the more current parameters of the Mediterannean, which had previously been two isolated bodies of water.