I HATE this religion (page 8)

Ding

If BD goes back to the KH to keep the peace, won't the next battleground be field service?

leavingwt

(You've already been given lots of advice. I'm not trying to counter the previous advice, I just want to throw more to think about into the mix.)

Each person has different limitations and different needs.

If at all possible, avoid establishing a new cult, known as "Walking On Eggshells in Your Own Home".

Your wife is an adult. She is currently in emotional turmoil because her WT dream didn't come true. Adults have to make difficult decisions and then live with them. Based upon the contents of the emails, she's trying her best to put a Guilt Trip on you. Her reaction fits well within what I would call "normal", given the circumstances. It will likely take months before she begins to deal with the reality of being married to an unbeliever.

IMHO, the biggest statement that you can make is with your actions, not your words. You continue supporting her and making her feel safe.

Moreover, you CONTROL THE NARRATIVE. You make it so that the only people who are sympathetic to her story are people in the cult. If she were to tell anyone outside the cult her story, they'd think she's crazy. Example: "Your husband now attends a different church and so you're going to leave him? That's crazy. Grow up and respect your husband."

Discussing doctrine is pointless. Only if she brings up the topic of WT/doctrine can you then ask thought-provoking questions that could help to empower her to think for herself.

Just my two cents. Again, I'm not trying to counter any advice you've already been given. I just want to add to the mix.

wasblind

Debator said: "If you cannot be a witness at least support her right to be one as a free-thinking human being."

Where in the Hell did Debator pull that advice from, his ass ?

ain' no such thing as a free thinkin' JW.

wasblind

Debator, If you have ever assumed that JW's are free thinkers

you must have been asleep during the talks about independant

thinkin', Have you ever been a witness or associated with them

in anyway ? or are you a troll

Lily Pie

It's odd, BrotherD, after reading about your problem a few days ago, I have been thinking about you. Praying for you. I don't know you, and I've only posted on this site a few times. But I feel compelled to care. I know God cares.

You are a Christian. I firmly believe the best way to survive this problem is by trusting God. Talk to God, he will have some ideas for you I am sure. Jeremiah 33:3.

Recognise this truth. When your wife married you, you were both JW's. This religion was the part of the "contract" of that marriage. You are the one who has amended the arrangement, not her. As a result, you are bound, by common sense and love, as her husband, to support her in this religion. Thinking this will help you hold your tongue, and keep you sincere in your support for her choices.

Honour your wife.

Yes, the Spirit will work in her. Through your conduct she will have the opportunity to see possibilities past the Watchtower. 2Corin5:17 - describes you embracing Christ, listen to what God's telling you.

Love Lily Pie

Libelle

Much love to you BrotherDan. Not a fun place to be in. FWIW, it's entirely possible that this is exacerbated by post partum depression or rage. I will not even mention how bad it was for me and my post-partum rage when The Mr was freshly baptized. Oh, the horrible things I did.

Deputy Dog

brotherdan

So at this point, I don't know how to teach my son about God. Isn't that sad? How dare I come on this board and argue theology with people, when I can't even take care of my own family.

(((((((((((hug))))))))))))

Don't apologize for that. You have every right to discuss your opinions about theology with everyone on this board. NOBODY has it all togather. Remember when it come to kids more is caught than taught. You are showing your son far more patience than I could. I would have lost it by now.

This is the place to argue theology. But you are teaching your 5 year old how to love unconditionaly (the way God loves his children). I can't think of a better way or a better thing to teach a 5 year old. Keep up the good work.

PSacramento

God is love, soemthing that Jw's don't really know much about, and as DD said, your show of onconditonal love to your child, in contrast to what your wife is doing, is the best way to teach him about God's love in contrast with "organizational love".

Of course you can always go to the elders and say that it's your wife's hypocracy and worldly partying that is driving you aways from the KH, LOL !

The fact is, YOU are supporting your wife in her decision to be a JW, even if a "questionable" one, it is YOUR wife that is not giving YOU the support or live that YOU deserve during YOUR time of need.

Of course a Jw will never see it that way because of their inherent "martyr complex".

Do the best you can and let love guide your actions :)

WTWizard

Love? Joy? Peace? Enlightenment? Anyone actually experience those emotions from the witlesses? Seems they always talk about how they are the only ones on the planet that display these emotions, claiming them as the fruitages of the spirit. And yet, this is not love, joy, peace, or enlightenment.

Rather, you see them displaying the opposite end of the spectrum. They manipulate people, using this sxxx along with death threats. They instill fear, apathy (toward world conditions), guilt, and shame in their members. These are even worse than anger--you are better off being angry than fearful, apathetic (unwilling to do anything about it), or in guilt and shame. This is not what they continually discuss! Love never fails--even if one party believes something is wrong with the religion and the other is still immersed in it. The religion actually pulls people all the way down to the bottom of the spectrum.

And yes, the witless religion does initiate force (including houndings, blackmail, and whatever they can do to force members including children into the cancer), threats of force (including death threats), and fraud to recruit members. The above is but one example of the fraud they initiate--promising love, joy, peace, and enlightenment and delivering fear, apathy, guilt, and shame instead.

brotherdan

debator, you are really not the person that I want posting on this thread. I've followed JW advice for long enough. And it's destroyed my family. So please kindly do not respond on this thread.

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