Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters

by darth frosty 553 Replies latest members politics

  • darth frosty
    darth frosty

    Mitt calls USA

    Mitt Romney Calls U.S.A. a 'Foreign Country' in His Tax Returns

    By ELIZABETH FLOCK

    September 21, 2012 RSS Feed Print

    Maybe Mitt Romney thinks he lives in Switzerland?

    When the former Massachusetts governor released his official 2011 tax return Friday, he (or whoever actually filled out the form) appeared to have mistakenly referred to the United States as a foreign country.

    [See: Political cartoons about Mitt Romney]

    "If you have a foreign address," the tax return instruction reads, "also complete spaces below." In the space below, under "foreign country name," Romney's form reads "USA."

    Several tax preparers confirmed to Whispers that "USA" should not have been written in that line-assuming the Republican presidential nominee is actually a citizen of the United States.

    No word from Donald Trump yet if he wants to see the original long form version of the tax return.

    Elizabeth Flock is a staff writer for U.S. News & World Report. You can contact her at [email protected] or follow her on Twitter and Facebook.

  • Kojack57
    Kojack57

    It comes down to this amist all the argumentation on this site: One thing every republican j- dub on this forum needs to realize as former Jehovah's witnesses. Mitt romney is a MORMON CULT MEMBER. Do you want this asswipe running the county? I would hope NOT.

    kojack

  • darth frosty
    darth frosty

    Paul Ryan Tells Florida Seniors That Obamacare Includes Death Panels

    By Igor Volsky on Sep 22, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    Paul Ryan likened a mechanism to control health care spending to "death panels," during a town hall at the University of Central Florida in Orlando on Saturday.

    After listening to Ryan repeatedly call for the repeal of the Affordable Care Act, an elderly man asked the Republican vice presidential nominee about "the death panels." Rather than dissuading the man from what PolitiFact named 2009′s Lie of the Year, Ryan laughed and responded, "that's not the word I'd choose to use to describe it. It's actually called....the Independent Payment Advisory Board":

    QUESTION: We love you Paul. But I'm getting long in years. Will you address the death panels that we're going to have?

    RYAN: The death panels, well! That's not the word I'd choose to use to describe it. It's actually called. It's actually called, so in Medicare, what I refer to as this board of 15 bureaucrats. It's called the Independent Payment Advisory Board. It sounds fairly innocuous.

    Watch it:

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    The Board, or IPAB - a provision included in the Affordable Care Act - is tasked with making binding recommendations to Congress for lowering health care spending, should Medicare costs exceed a target growth rate. Congress can accept the savings proposal or implement its own ideas through a super majority.

    The panel's plan will modify payments to providers but despite Ryan's claims, it cannot "include any recommendation to ration health care, raise revenues or Medicare beneficiary premiums...increase Medicare beneficiary cost-sharing (including deductibles, coinsurance, and co- payments), or otherwise restrict benefits or modify eligibility criteria" (Section 3403 of the ACA). The IPAB will consist of 15 members appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate, and will include a broad spectrum of experts and consumer advocates, like physicians, employers, economists, representatives of consumers and the elderly. In fact, relying on health care experts rather than politicians to control health care costs has previously attracted bipartisan support and even Ryan himself proposed two IPAB-like structures in a 2009 health plan.

  • BizzyBee
    BizzyBee

    So Bizzy - how do you feel about Obama and Michelle considering that they are also rich? Not certain whether you are making an anti politician point or something else?

    Qcmbr - Glad you asked. Not making an anti-pol point - but attempting to understand the Romney's spectacular mis-cues as they run their campaign into the ground and why they seem so ill-prepared. Mitt Romney has been running for POTUS for 5 years, yet he seems unable to connect with the average voter. Fitzgerald's famous observation - "the rich are different than you and me" - offers some insight.

    Fitzgerald was talking about the world-view of those born rich -

    "They possess and enjoy early, and it does something to them, makes them soft where we are hard, and cynical where we are trustful, in a way that, unless you were born rich, it is very difficult to understand."

    Conversely, I would think that if you were born poor you'd have a different world view from the rich or even the middle-class.

    Neither of the Obamas were born to wealth and in fact their net worth of nearly $6M is of fairly recent vintage. The Romney's are 42 times richer and have never experienced financial struggle.

    "They think, deep in their hearts, that they are better than we are......"

    Could this possibly explain their inability to transcend their wealth and the world view it imparts and see that the 47% are not losers, but simply less fortunate fellow humans trying to survive in a world where the deck is stacked against them?

  • Qcmbr
    Qcmbr

    Bizzy - I think that Mitt says plenty of garbage but I don't think you can really dismantle his character because he's rich. If he'd some real skeletons in his closet everyone would be all over them but the reality is he's probably the cleanest republican candidate in a long time, no affairs, law abiding, devout, financially astute etc. The real issue for most people, if I'm reading the posts right, is deep down a dislike of Mormonism. I get that, it's human nature but it's going to have an impact on this election and cloud peoples judgement and potentially elect the wrong person for the current job.

    Grown ups really shouldn't be worried about too much make up, someone's religious underwear, how they once transported their dog on a family holiday, out of context sound bites, how blind trusts invest money for candidates, who mows their lawn, how their secretary filled in a tax return etc. these things are fluff and insignificant when weighed against what is at stake. When someone presents themselves to the public they try to meet their needs ( when you stood up to do speaking assignments in the KH you will have dressed according to the group standards, spoken using group language, adopted group mentalities even if you internally disagreed or wanted to be somewhere else .) Mitt isn't a good public relations person, while he's a good public speaker he isn't great and his campaign have definitely made some poor choices.

    Mitt's party however, is in a bind, it put forward ultra religious right wing candidates as the response to a financial crisis, in effect they are trying to make this election about anti-gay , anti-abortion social issues and only have one unifying 'financial' policy ( get rid of Obama's medical program) which deep down is simply another social policy to many republicans. In short they are fighting the wrong issue , they are mentally standing on a social platform not a financial one while deep down they know, everyone knows, that the financial problems far exceed tinkering with social laws so they grudgingly nominated one of the two candidates with the relevant skillset ( Huntsmen didn't even get a look in as he was simply unwilling to pander .) They've ended up with the right candidate because even extremists can be pragmatic but many secretly detest him because they know he's a moderate so is unlikely to push a far right religious agenda.

    Mitt is now in a horrendous position. The job he's applied for , 'country in crisis - finances broken - harsh , painful choices needed - economist required' , fits his CV perfectly. It should be a shoe in ( Obama isn't a financial genius or a ruthless businessman). The problem is that suddenly the job 'interview' has ceased to be about the real issues but has meandered into trivial and lurid questions about Mormonism ( which skillset wise seems, after Judaism, to be spot on, hard work, self sufficiency and pragmatic action), farcical discussions about tax returns, comparing apples and oranges ( how dare he lay people off as a businessman!) , utterly made up character smears ( his blind trust invested in what!, his lawn company hired illegals-my gosh move to impeach) and endless nit picking. This isn't a case of Nero fiddling, this is a mass public orchestra and everyone's tuning up.

    Can the publically likeable, social reformer and great public speaker, Obama, turn his skills to an economy in crisis ( and will the Republican house simply obstruct him anyway) or can the publically crass, moderate with meh speaking skills but undoubted financial genius focus on the economy and make the hard choices to speed a recovery?

    Of course for most people its more fun to speculate about underwear, fiddles to the ready.

  • designs
    designs

    Qcmbr- I would add that our country has tried Trickle Down and while it can have some success it does not really trickle down. Since we are xJWs we have fun making fun of the LDS but really we understand the mindset of the Mitt's of this world. Huntsmen would have been far better as a financial planner for the country. The current President has been advised by some of the best financial minds we have, Warren Buffett for example, and actually we are ahead of his predictions on our recovery considering how deep the hole was from the previous Administration.

    So allow us the luxury to make fun of the LDS and the Evangelicals who are trying to gain the upper hand, but in all seriousness the Evangelical agenda of Dominionism is really scary.

  • designs
    designs

    In May Romney held a meeting in Colorado to discuss 'what is wrong with our education system' and ranted on about Teacher's Unions and the need to privatize schools and offer Vouchers. When the real teacher in the group spoke up and said 'I have an answer for that' Mitt's response was 'I didn't ask you a question!'.

    You think he gives a rats ass about listening to the workers in the real world.

  • BizzyBee
    BizzyBee

    The job he's applied for , 'country in crisis - finances broken - harsh , painful choices needed - economist required' , fits his CV perfectly.

    As a voter, I can't agree. I think the notion of "running the country like a business" is deeply, fundamentally misguided. America is not a business and doesn't operate like one.

  • Glander
    Glander

    Franklin D Roosevelt - John F. Kennedy and Ted Kennedy - George Washinton and Thomas Jefferson, et al- All wealthy men before they ever got into politics. I am more concerned about the "nuveau riche" like the Obamas and ...others

    The term nouveau riche ( French : “new rich” [nu.vo ?i?] ), describes rich people who acquired their wealth within their own generations ; the equivalent English term is (the) new rich . [1] Sociologically, nouveau riche describes the man or woman who previously had belonged to a lower social class and economic stratum (rank) within that class; and that the new money — which constitutes his or her wealth — allowed upward social mobility and provided the means for conspicuous consumption , the buying of goods and services that signal membership in an upper class. As a pejorative term, nouveau riche effects distinctions of type, the given stratum within a social class; hence, among the rich people of a social class, nouveau riche describes the vulgarity and ostentation of the new-rich man and woman who lack the worldy experience and the system of values of Old Money , of inherited wealth, such as the patriciate and the gentry

  • designs
    designs

    Well let me just pour you a Mint julep and tell the coloreds to get back out in the field...

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