AAWA, J M____ E______, and me

by zed is dead 577 Replies latest members private

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  Marvin Shilmer

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  “Where are the firsthand answers supposed to come from if not from the AAWA but right now, they just seem to have shut up shop.”

  Simon,

  AAWA has no burden to respond when and where other folks thinks it should. In your case, you know perfectly well from where to get firsthand answers on issues raised here. Anyone else has the same opportunity, that is if they’re willing and want to.

  Regardless, as its told to me we can expect a statement directly from AAWA addressing things discussed here either this week or next, and probably this week.

  “And I fail to see how pointing hout any errors I may have made in 13+ years has anything at all to do with what the AAWA is doing right now.”

  Obviously I’ve done a poor job articulating my comments of JWN compared to AAWA.

  I don’t think the mistakes of JWN are a mirror image of mistakes made by AAWA. Today we see a whole different culture of people on JWN compared to yesteryears, and particularly compared to the earliest days. Were today’s culture at JWN to experience today some of the things back then I’m sure plenty of stink would occur about it.

  “Marvin: the more you post, the more it starts to sound like Cedars talking. Why is that?”

  I don’t know why that impression. I can tell you this: if you have any clue where Cedars is from then you’ll know for a certainty I am not him when I treat you and the wife to dinner. My best guess is that you’ll find it easy to make the distinction at that point.

  Marvin Shilmer
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  wha happened?

  AAWA has no burden to respond when and where other folks thinks it should.

  Sounds like a great plan. I remember hearing that at the KH
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  wha happened?

  "Marvin: the more you post, the more it starts to sound like Cedars talking. Why is that?"

  Great, another AKA to hide behind
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  talesin

  Obviously I’ve done a poor job articulating my comments of JWN compared to AAWA.

  Exactly ...... this is all about failure to protect confidentiality. So why did YOU bring it up? And you accuse me of causing drama?

  t
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  wha happened?

  He was baiting people into a different discussion. It's about confidentiality, and their ill prepared plan that broke confidentiality, and how little effort they made to remedy it.

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  Marvin Shilmer

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  “Have you read through all the threads Marvin?”

  Dagney,

  No, and don’t plan to either. What I’ve not read I don’t ask about.

  I make my mind up based on what I do read and answers I get to questions asked of that.

  Is there something in particular you want me to read? If so, point me to it specifically and I’m more than happy to oblige. But I’ll not spend my day reading reams of soap opera looking for something. If you want me to read something you feel important then point me exactly to it. I’ll read it and respond.

  Marvin Shilmer
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  wha happened?

  I make my mind up based on what I do read and answers I get to questions asked of that.

  Did you really mean, you make up your mind on what you CHOOSE to read?
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  Marvin Shilmer

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  “I love they way Marvin throws out statements, then demands that u present evidence to the contrary.”

  wha happened?,

  What you accuse me of a specific form of argumentum ad ignorantiam known as shifting the burden of proof.

  Please show readers where I’ve done this. I’d like to see it myself.

  Marvin Shilmer
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  *lost*

  This is starting to all sound more worrying than it did beofore.

  Isn't it usual for a company that uses volunteers to provide training, guidelines, rules for said volunteers. And signed confidentaility contracts.

  Is it usual for company volunteers to be able to work alone without assistance and guidance from a contracted employee.

  Is it usual for volunteers act as PR officers for a company.

  How is it possible for a 'somebody' to take a companies logo etc and pretend to be the company - where would they get all the knowledge and information they would need.

  Why are volunteers who have no involvement with the running of Company acting as messengers engaging in public debate telling people what the facts are/are not.

  Why are people telling lies.

  edited to add.How are people still joining the group if it is shut down.

  Marvin if you haven't read the posts to see what was actually said - how can you make an informed opinion based on facts.
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  Tylinbrando

  Some individuals on this forum have repeatedly asked AAWA to step forward and start clarifying issues and answering questions. AAWA has not done so and it appears board members and administrators are choosing not to engage in this discussion ON THIS FORUM.

  AAWA has made public statements that anyone who has been wronged by them to contact them so that they can be questioned about details.

  The stance from AAWA is that not one person of whom has been wronged by them has come forward to discuss what happened.

  SO it appears that we are at an impass because the people with first hand knowledge are refusing to talk to eachother.

  LOST you said,

  How is it possible for a 'somebody' to take a companies logo etc and pretend to be the company - where would they get all the knowledge and information they would need.

  I could take all written statements from AAWA posted at their FB Group. I could take all of their Logos, Graphics, Photos and Memes. I could set up a Facebook Group that looks exactly like the Official AAWA Group and add a period at the end of the Group Title. Then I could "add" every friend from my Facebook.

  Thats how easy its done. And it happens all the time on Facebook and users then have to prove their identities when Facebook receives complaint.