AAWA, J M____ E______, and me

by zed is dead 577 Replies latest members private

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    That doesn't cover it wing. Why do people have to set up a fake name to prevent the damage fro others adding you to their page?

    because nothing on FB is secure. The assumption should be anything posted on the Internet or FB is public. Anything and everything. I don't care how secure a site claims itself to be. So sensitive information should never be put on a site like FB. If one is a fader and active in the Xjw community being on FB is dangerous no matter what kind of security protocols one might think they have. I'm not blaming the victims (imho the blame lies squarely with the dweebs that outed folks) but I think some clarity should be stressed over and over about how unsecure FB really is.

  • Marvin Shilmer
    Marvin Shilmer

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    “If what Marvin says is correct (he seems to have an insight as to how AAWA 'leading lights' are thinking) it suggests a sort of 'corporate arrogance' on the part of AAWA.”

    Joe Grundy,

    Thanks for sharing your perspective, and for the most part I could not agree more.

    It’s not that organizers of AAWA didn’t care about or want the wealth of knowledge and experience available at JWN. My remark you allude to is more like ‘corporate exhaustion’ rather than ‘corporate arrogance’.

    Because ground is constantly moving underneath corporate feet, at some point a decision must be made to move forward as best you can. This is the work of a Board of Directors, and my comment was to suggest AAWA’s board may be reaching that point. I’ll add that I doubt AAWA’s board membership thinks its success or failure is tied to sentiment at JWN. It’s unwise to construct a “business” tied to one basket. If they’re trying to build a robust structure they’d have to avoid creating such a dependency in the first place.

    Honestly, were I a sole proprietor running an AAWA business, the last thing I’d do is use or consult JWN’s public forum to find staff. Instead I’d use my personal contacts among folks I know and trust to find the best available people and then work within whatever is the skill-set of that group, and build it from there. In my case, because some of my contacts have been made through the JWN outlet then to that extent JWN would play a role.

    Marvin Shilmer

  • Marvin Shilmer
    Marvin Shilmer

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    “Do you want more or will this suffice.”

    lost,

    I much appreciate you taking time to compile that litany of data, unfortunately I have no idea what it is supposed to represent.

    Marvin Shilmer

  • Dismissing servant
    Dismissing servant

    "unfortunately I have no idea what it is supposed to represent."

    Don't you? That's strange. Have you bothered taking a little look?

  • Marvin Shilmer
    Marvin Shilmer

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    “This entire problem is because people are too trusting with social media sites and actually use their real names, profiles, etc.”

    WingCommander,

    My take is that folks believe there was insufficient security measures and in some cases inappropriate/presumptive adding of their Facebook presence to things AAWA. Beyond that my take is there is suspicion of dishonesty from inside AAWA.

    Marvin Shilmer

  • Marvin Shilmer
    Marvin Shilmer

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    “I think some clarity should be stressed over and over about how unsecure FB really is.”

    mrsjones5,

    A few days ago Simon spoke strongly of this, and I could not agree more. I’d add that AAWA’s mission would be well served for its leadership to keep good advice like you offer above before its target audience at all times.

    Marvin Shilmer

  • Marvin Shilmer
    Marvin Shilmer

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    “Have you bothered taking a little look?”

    Dismissing servant,

    I read the data set presented by lost, but I don’t know where it comes from or what it’s supposed to mean for lack of that context. Is there a reference to its source?

    Marvin Shilmer

  • AnnOMaly
    AnnOMaly

    Marvin #2572,

    The data are thread title, posters' names and their post numbers. Obvious.

  • talesin
    talesin

    In regards to Marvin, he's a great distraction, and since he doesn't speak for AAWA STD SUV, he can say anything he wants. He can get as snarky as he wants. But when it comes down to it, he doesn't represent AAWA. So they can stay off in the distance, watching him engage everyone.

    Yeah, I agree, wha...nice way to muddy the waters. Marvin knows nothing of Facebook groups, very little about ethics of people claiming to be counselors and educators and journalists, AND refuses all offers to explain the matter to him. He also clearly stated that some of us here have a 'higher' status than others... 'we are not all equal' ... whatever! I guess I am just another lowly 'sister' and he is an all-knowing 'elder'. Ack, did I just pull a "Cofty"?

    I hope the folks at AAWA can straighten this out, get some people there who know what they are doing .... and maybe they can accomplish some good. One thing I can guarantee is that I want nothing to do with them.

    tal

  • talesin
    talesin

    lol, "lost", I knew exactly what your list was when I looked at it... as such a long-time, experienced, and superior member of this forum, so should Marvin. I do believe he is being obtuse.

    xo

    tal

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