Who did this? Provide direct quotes.
I'm not wasting my time with non-arguments like this - it's all there for you to read, and no one seems to be arguing against it, in fact recognition of Christianities evil past seemed to be the hope that some were pinning their argument to as though it somehow excused islams current issues. If you are saying this is incorrect then let's hear your arguments why but don't waste our time otherwise.
You think that Muslims are like Jehovah's Witnesses in their adherence to beliefs. They are not, they are like Christians when it comes to their beliefs. Do Jehovah's Witnesses share the same interpretation of the Bible as Southern Baptists?
When it comes to the basic beliefs, yes. Chist is god's son, don't kill people, god is going to return and go apeshit etc... Your comparison is really with Sunni vs Shia muslims.
The JW - muslim comparison is very apt though. While most JWs would never want to do anything extreme and are decent people they will repeat parts of their faith that are less than nice and go along with bad choices and see nothing wrong with it - from allowing children to die from lack of medical treatment to shunning family members. By carrying blood cards and taking part in shunning they support the practices. For the bad things to happen it needs the tacit support of the majority even though they may not be doing the bad things themselves and may even decry them.
you claim that no one on this thread has demonstrated that moderate Muslims do not support extreme passages in the Quran. I posted an extract from the Islamic Bulletin explaining why Jihad is not what it is claimed to be.
Saying that jihad is not what it is claimed to be is not at all the same as demonstrating that moderate muslims do not support extreme passages in the Quran. The fundamental issue that you have not and cannot get around is the simple fact:
- Muslims believe the Quran is the holy word of god
- The Quran contains hateful commandments
- Muslims cannot say that the Quran is wrong
If any muslim does say that the quran is wrong or not the holy word of god then they live in fear of being killed because of it.
Is the bulletin the same one the RCMP withdrew support from? Have you read it? It reads like a WTS publication and is all about making sure that islam has a good name. That is it's prime concern, not with solving the issue. It's simply propaganda teaching adherants how to lie or get out of answering difficult questions.
I posted an article talking about the diversity of interpretations of the Quran and the variety of understandings of what it is to be a Muslim. Water off a duck's back. Someone else posted photos of muslims campaigning against IS and violence. No credit.
It's easy to denounce the acts of extremists. It's harder to admit that they are acting out the very beliefs that you hold. If it's simply an interpretation thing then where are the voices saying "that is not in the Quran"? Why isn't that the message being shouted out?
Nowhere do we hear people saying "that is not in the quran, that is not what the word of god says" ... well, other than people who are labelled as apostates and ex-mulsims ... which reinforces that current muslims must belief it.
I can tell you as a fact that respect for the sanctity of human life, any human life, is a fundamental principle of Islam but you are unlikely to accept that either. You have decided that Islam is 'bad' and nothing will deflect you from that.
Because it's blatently untrue. The religion contains commands and excuses for abuse and people excuse those with wishy-washy "we value life" and "it's a religion of peace" statements but those are simply cheap words to fool the naive and those who imagine they are accomplishing something by being tollerant of evil.
It's just like JWs saying they are loving and caring but then rip families apart and cause great suffering - they know to say one thing to onlookers while behaving at odds to their claims.
Some people are taken in, others are not.