" No just asking for: your views on the problems (do you even think there is one) and how you would deal with them . What I'm not asking for is verbal abuse, name calling and black and white statements indicating no attempt to discuss but simple attempt to dominate discussion."
Qcmbr - stated my views. they are constantly ignored when i show someones obvious missteps or the fact that they are flat out wrong
Yes there is a problem but it is not even being touched on in an honest way
You are not asking for verbal abuse??? Neither am I. So you telling me "Enough", or yourt buddy calling me an elderoite watchtower blah blah or your other buddy telling me to strap dynamite to myself and go kill kindergarten children or other posters calling us names is worse. Have you addressed any of those attacks? No. That is the problem. You and others are looking at this in a totalling one-sided way.
I am not attempting to dominate discussions. I have asked a million well thought out questions (not literally a million) and they get ignored. SO I have to make black and white statements because of the fact that thought inducing questions are ignored.
Be truthfull and look back over the last 19 pages and you will see any question that does not fully agree with extremist views are just passed over.