correction: muslim anti-semitism was briefly mentioned, but only in the context of blowback for Israel's actions.
It always seems to be America's and Israel's fault, doesn't it?
Oklahoma beheading - Islam is a disease
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Seraphim23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6ibKWVTFSak
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Qcmbr
....once again no solutions just an attempt to obfuscate the issues. Cant recognise the anti women teachings of Islam - deflect by pointing out a country that has elected a female leader (as though that excuses 1500 years of patriarchal abuse that is ongoing). Such a disgusting childish video. While the grown ups are fighting for womens rights , opposing a worldwide radicalisation of muslim youth and opposing mythological bigotry this tv guy is making jokes. Way to go.
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Bungi Bill
LoveUniHateExams,
So.......
- All of us let ourselves become wild-eyed fanatics.
- All of them subsequently become wild-eyed fanatics, too.
Then what?
What you then have is a situation where you have effectively poured kerosene, rather than water, over a fire you thought you were putting out!
Not for nothing has a senior official in the Victorian Police appealed for calm over this matter.
Senseless acts of hostility towards individual Moslems (such as last week's bashing of a Moslem commuter train passenger in Melbourne, and the throwing of her out of the still-moving train at Batman station) is not going to do any good at all.
Bill.
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confusedandalone
"Such a disgusting childish video."
How is this disgusting and childish.
So the Muslim countries that have female heads of state are repressive to women???
Can each group of people be evaluated on their own actions?
What is disgusting and childish is assuming everyone of a certain group are all the same.
I wonder if any of the people with these views actually travel and engage with people of other cultures and have OPEN CONVERSATIONS with them.
Seraphim23 - Thank you for posting this.
I am sure some probably think he was a bully and ugly with his speech, but when people just cant seem to understand the facts sometimes you have to just be straight forward in a fashion they can understand
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LoveUniHateExams
@Bungi Bill
'So ... all of us let ourselves become wild-eyed fanatics' - no, but being so laid back as to be horizontal isn't good either.
'All of them subsequently become wild-eeyed fanatics, too' - WRONG! They already were wild-eyed fanatics BEFORE any western fanaticism! You've put the players in this cause-and-effect cycle the wrong way round.
I agree with you that antagonising random muslims on the street, failing to keep the peace is wrong and unhelpful.
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Bungi Bill
LoveUniHateExams,
I was referring to those Moslems who are not extremists, but who could easily be driven that way by acts of bigotry on our part. Also, I am certainly not advocating a "laid back" and "horizontal" approach to terrorism.
The successful battle against terrorism is fundamentally no different from the fight against any other form of irregular warfare, in that it is as difficult as it is subtle. To under-react is useless (no quarrel with you there!). However, over reaction by the security forces is ultimately just as futile, if not worse. As the British found out in their fight against the IRA during the Irish War of Independence, and the French had to re-learn while fighting the FLN in Algeria, each indescriminate act of brutality by the security forces only gathers more support for the terrorists. The FLN were quite open about it afterwards - French brutality (particularly by the paratroopers, who no doubt thought that they were merely "fighting fire with fire"), was the best recruiting tool that they (the FLN) had.
Not for nothing did the British general Sir Gerald Templar, when referring to the (ultimately successful) war against the communists in Malaya, observe that its victory was actually won, not by military means, but - to quote, "In the minds and hearts of the people." Significantly, prior to his appointment, the army had taken a "kick down the saloon doors, and let drive with the six guns" approach, with the result that the communists were winning. After Templar's appointment to command, the "minds and hearts" approach was adopted, the war consequently turned around, and victory for the West ultimately achieved.
Extremism on our part is hardly conducive to winning over the "hearts and minds" of those Moslems who are not extremists, let alone those that are. (And by no means are all Moslems extremists, either - I have worked with, and lived amongst, many who are not).
Well has it been noted that "those who ignore the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them." Do we really want that!
Bill.
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Gregor
Confuzzledandalone is a toxic poster who is drawn to Islam for some reason. Reading his posts is a taste of the blind hate that drives some fanatics to unspeakable atrocities. His personal vitriol towards posters he doesn't even know is a sure sign of an xjw who has a lot of issues to deal with.
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Hummingbird001
^^^ His personal vitriol towards posters he doesn't even know is a sure sign of an xjw who has a lot of issues to deal with. ^^^
The irony of that makes my brain hurt.
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confusedandalone
Gregor no one takes you seriously. You are speaking to an X jw who has met a number of posters who know me and family are doing exceedingly well financially emotionally etc... etc...
I am also an atheist so being drawn to Islam is so far off base.
I am drawn to making sure people are treated fairly. If you would like to know exactly what I have going on ill tell you... but I am sure you don't want to know.
However you are the only lose here who suggests people strap explosives to themselves and blow up children.
You also are a 70 or almost 70 year old man that admits to wasting most of your life in the born so obviously you are angry and sad and I am guessing probably lonely and in not the greatest financial situation.
Regardless you will be dead soon so your opinions do not matter to me.