What hope is there then? (page 17)

snowbird

Hmmm ...

A WT apologist with a different tack.

Thought so.

Syl

palmtree67

sayitnotso:

Here is my experience with your "loving brotherhood".

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/190597/1/Evidence-of-Love-Amongst-Themselves

I think there's alot here who may not have this extreme experience, but many are here because of the lack of love.

All the best to you on your journey,

Palmtree

beksbks

8. Keeps seperate from the world

This is not exclusive to the JW's. It is one of if not the first tenets of any cult.

11. Just as in Noah's day, Jehovah will again destroy ungodly people

Destroy. Who exactly are these ungodly people? As I remember it, it's anyone who isn't a JW. So millions of decent, kind, loving, people will be destroyed because they are not JW's. That is what sounds ungodly to me. Taking comfort, even joy at the thought of such a thing.

sayitsnotso

Do you have any concrete proof of these claims? I tried to do a few google queryies but could only find people claiming this. Not an actual official link.

The WBT$ owns 50% of Rand Cam..They Still do..

WBT$ could simply give back the shares to the person that gave it to them..

They won`t..Theres too much money involved..

sayitsnotso

Destroy. Who exactly are these ungodly people? As I remember it, it's anyone who isn't a JW. So millions of decent, kind, loving, people will be destroyed because they are not JW's.

But didn't this happen in Noah's Day? Only Jehovah knows if he will resurrect those that didn't make it on the ark due to not having the opportunity to make a choice. Same goes for those today when Armeggedon comes.

sayitsnotso

Start by researching the origins of the name "Jehovah". Even the Watchtower organization admits its not the Divine Name.

Well, if it's not the Divine Name - why use it?

I have no issue with not knowing the original pronounciation of YHWH, or with the fact that the vowels that are used to derive Yahweh or Jehovah are from the Hebrew word for Lord. That name still represents a specific person. The title God is vauge. The name differentiates Jesus from Jehovah. Besides, it's an english name, that is pronounced differented in other languages. It's what and who that name represents that matters.

beksbks

But didn't this happen in Noah's Day? Only Jehovah knows if he will resurrect those that didn't make it on the ark due to not having the opportunity to make a choice. Same goes for those today when Armeggedon comes.

But you embrace the notion that millions of people whose only "sin" is not being a JW will perish? What if they were given the chance to make a choice, and simply did not believe the JW's had it right? Does that make them ungodly?

Personally, I find it despicable to look at other human beings as worthy of destruction, just because of thier religious beliefs, or lack thereof.

sayitsnotso

What if they were given the chance to make a choice, and simply did not believe the JW's had it right? Does that make them ungodly?

That's a good question and one I have been wondering about a lot lately. I can't provide an answer to this question at this time.

UPDATE: This is where whether or not the bible is true or not seems to come into the thought process. Because God did kill back in Noah's day, people regardless of how nice, kind, or loving they may have been because they did not board the ark. If that judgement is permanant then the logic would lead to viewing armeggedon as no different. If that judgement was not permanant, then perhaps they may be resurrected again in the future? All the bible says is what will happen overall, not with individuals.

PSacramento

But didn't this happen in Noah's Day? Only Jehovah knows if he will resurrect those that didn't make it on the ark due to not having the opportunity to make a choice. Same goes for those today when Armeggedon comes.

Did it happen in Noah's day?

Did got wipe out the entire human race except Noah and his family?

DId it happen?

PSacramento

It's what and who that name represents that matters.

How did Jesus teach us to Pray? How did he teach us to address God and how did Jesus address God?

What hope is there then?

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