the elders want to meet with me tomorrow

by wannabefree 146 Replies latest members private

  • watson
    watson

    I've been working on this too.

    I think my approach is going to be one of honesty.

    "Brothers, it makes me feel good that you asked me to meet with you. I have to confess that I am having some doubts. I think it comes down to trust. I don't feel the trust for the Governing Body that I used to have. Some of the changes I've seen over the last 35 years have me really worried. I'm not sure that I want to discuss them with your right now, because I don't want to put things out there that might cause you to doubt. I have resisted discussing this at length with my wife and children, because I don't want to hurt their faith too. I have prayed a great deal, and am waiting on Jehovah to help me. Anything you can do to encourage me is appreciated."

    It's a work in progress...

  • watson
    watson

    I believe this might actually bring out their empathy. They have seen the politics, the hypocracy, the unusual changes, time passing. They are elders, after all.

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    I also agree with Hortensia and PamsGirl....

    By "going", you are playing THEIR game by THEIR rules...

    Speaking as one who was unfortunately still "mentally" in while striving to get out, playing by their rules is a losing game - and does give them some measure of power over you...

    00Dad - and others, I'll bet - I'm still on the 1st page - have made excellent suggestions on how to continue to avoid the elders while maintaining your dignity...

    Zid

    Added...

    Crap, I just got down to your post #1726 - as Cedars says below that, it sounds fishy... NOT GOOD...

    Being asked to meet elders at the hall is NEVER a good thing...

  • Morbidzbaby
    Morbidzbaby

    Please give us an update as soon as you can, wannabefree! I think we all want to make sure you're okay...and if not, we're all here for you.

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    Okay, I just got to Moshe's post on page 2....

    While I agree with Leaving WT - DO LISTEN TO CEDARS - and 00Dad - Play that headship card, and play it HARD....

    I cannot but marvel at the genius of Moshe's suggestions....

    If you didn't have to deal with potential betrayal of your tactics by your still-brainwashed wife - and perhaps children? - I'd take Moshe's advice in a heartbeat....

    I'm going to repeat that, cuz it's important...

    If I were in your shoes - and DIDN'T have to worry about "family" betraying my tactics, I'd TAKE MOSHE'S ADVICE ON PAGE 2 - in a HEARTBEAT!!!

    Have some slightly malicious fun at the ELDERS' EXPENSE, for a change!!

    Zid

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    Oooooo, LisaBObesa made a good point, too!!!

    "They will use the Bible to prove that god exists, but you can just say you doubt the Bible since you doubt God. ..."

    Hilariously, the elders will be more concerned with your attitude towards the GOVERNING BODY than with your attitude towards "god"...!!!

    You could make up some atheist at work - if you don't work with JWs, that is - who has been questioning your beliefs and has eroded your confidence [gasp! ] in the existence of "god", himself...

    Pick up some of Terry, AK_Jeff, Leolaia's or even my lines/arguments , just for effect, if you want...

    Yeah, I just got to Morbidzbaby's advice - also EXCELLENT; I especially liked his use of that scripture - seems to have been very effective!! [Morbidzbaby is a guy, right????]

    Dealing with the fanatical wife - bad news, but....

    Yeah, on page 3 - Morbidzbaby and Black Sheep - I liked their advice the most...

  • watson
    watson
    Hilariously, the elders will be more concerned with your attitude towards the GOVERNING BODY than with your attitude towards "god"...!!!

    The importance of this cannot be overstated, in all of this.

  • Morbidzbaby
    Morbidzbaby

    @ Zid... My boobs and presence of a vagina tell me that I am, in fact, a woman LMAO

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    @Morbidzbaby...

    Oooopsies....

    You spoke with such authority, I thought you were an ex-elder - or a currently-serving "awakened" elder...

  • Sapphy
    Sapphy
    Hilariously, the elders will be more concerned with your attitude towards the GOVERNING BODY than with your attitude towards "god"...!!!

    LOL that is SO true! A long while ago I 'confessed' I was having doubts validity of the Bible as God's word, and indeed I was having doubts about God's existance, the next question the elduh asked me wasn't "what are these doubts?" it was "do you still believe God is using the society?"

    Logic wasn't his strong point.

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