the elders want to meet with me tomorrow (page 9)

Morbidzbaby

@ Zid, it's okay lol. I actually take that as a compliment, believe it or not! I've come a long way from being the sumbissive mouse of a wife LOL.

wannabefree

Thanks again. Very good advice, suggestions, support .... I ignored the request.

Time will tell. I have been preparing my family for the reality of the consequences, how drastically things will change. My minor daughters find it hard to believe, perhaps the dose of reality would help them.

Weird thing today though, I got love bombed with phone calls and so-and-so says hi and miss ya, and a personal visit ... something seems to be up, at this point it seems to be an attempt to save me ... I do love these people, but I can't return to the cult, and we all know the reality of the matter is that the only reason they are my friends in the first place is because of the religion.

My family situation is precarious as far as my children goes, everything else is of no matter to me.

Peace. Best wishes ... wannabefree ... soon2befree

ziddina

I sincerely hope that your wife understands - clearly and thoroughly - what the effects of your df'ing would be....

The next thing I would hope, is that she not DESIRE such to happen... That she has enough brains to avoid destroying what is apparently a fairly happy family - in spite of the great big cult in the room...

Of course, SHE doesn't see things that way...

I wish someone could sit down with her and explain to her that her chances of snatching another JW husband would be slim-to-nun, and that she could easily end up being another divorced-sister-with-kids struggling to survive financially, if she continues her fanatical efforts to have you disfellowshipped...

I absolutely HATE saying this, but - you're sure that there isn't some other ulterior motive for her efforts to get you disfellowshipped? Like having a more "spiritual" brother [] waiting in the wings???

Just sayin'...

wannabefree

you're sure that there isn't some other ulterior motive for her efforts to get you disfellowshipped

No, I really don't think so. My wife doesn't want that to happen I am fairly certain. She isn't trying to get me disfellowshipped, she could have accomplished that easily by now, I have given her plenty of apostate rope to hang me.

In my individual conversations I had with these elders this past summer, I brought up with one the 607/587 debacle, with another that I was just having a hard time in my personal study to prove some things that I took for granted and that I would be okay but I had to get these things worked out. Both of them went to the faithful slave question, it was weird, but that is what it boils down to isn't it. They wanted to give me the benefit of the doubt at the time and I told them I would be okay.

If anybody has leaked things about my attitude, it is probably one of my daughters, or my wife pouring out her woes to a sister, not maliciously.

The first time the meeting with me was requested was just after the C.O. visit, so I think it is a mosaic of all of the things I have presented, a change is obvious, I haven't gotten better, I have only gotten further from the brotherhood, it may be a fishing expedition that they want, but I know they would hope to win me over rather than know that they have to get rid of me.

I will let you know if anything else happens.

I will not give in, I can't go back, I won't pretend, something will happen sooner or later.

cyberjesus

Tell em you cant go cuz your favorite episode of the simpsons is re-running a this week and you want to record it.

AGuest

Not that I'm one to talk (I had 14 JC meetings - man, if I only knew then what I know now!), dear Wanna (peace to you!), but it seems to me that if folks just stop agreeing TO meet... and meeting... with them... their "power" will eventually disintegrate entirely. May that day come... and soon!

Whatever you choose to do, may it "go well" with you!

Again, peace to you!

A slave of Christ,

SA, who unfortunately didn't know any better back then. Hindsight is 20/20...

OnTheWayOut

I will not give in, I can't go back, I won't pretend, something will happen sooner or later.

There's no guarantees, something could happen if you never meet with them but.....

....you don't have to pretend or give in or lie if you remain silent with the elders and speak only as far as answering questions from individual family members without fully setting off their cult protection triggers.

I do it. Nobody is (currently) looking to kick me out. Sure, that'll change one day, possibly. But maybe never if I just don't meet with them.

Butterflyleia85

I wish I ignored the elders.... to avoid is probably best.

JW GoneBad

wannabefree: The expression "a man has to do what a man has to do" comes to mind.

However, at the same time you want to avoid regrets as much as possible. I can't blame you for feeling the way you do about the organization. I can't stand these hypocrites either.

I hope for the best outcome as possible for you and your family. May God speed!

watersprout

Ignore them! Take their power from them! They phoned and even turned up at my home, I was out with my sister and Carrot was babysitting our sprog two dogs and my neice and nephew (who at the time were 10 months old)... Hubby was a little frazzled to say the least. Anyway they turned up and wanted to meet with us, infact they wanted to come in and arrange a ''meeting''... Carrot being the ''oh, so calm little ray of sunshine'', told them to clear off and that they had no power over us so to be on their way.... Then my mom phoned and threatened to sue them if they even looked in our direction. She told them to phone Bethel and see if they would be supported during a lawsuit. Not heard a peep since, well might do now I have a giant xmas tree in the window LMAO!

Once you accept they have NO power and REFUSE to speak to them, they lose any smigdens of power they had over you. They like to use the bullying/scare tactics and when they realise they are wasted on you, they don't know what to do, so look for the next victim to terrorize.

I hope everything works out for you.

Paeec

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