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I don't watch FOX.
Me neither. It sounds like an excuse to avoid trying to address the issues raised.
Ultimately I can see a number of changes have taken place and given time I am sure more will. Enforcing change on these people is not going to work.
So what's your solution to the people who want to do harm but don't want to change? Love-bomb them?
my experiences are the same as confused and alone.
AlphaMan - You have to hit back, and hit back extremely hard. If you must round them up, then start rounding up any of them that has expressed any extremist ideas or statements, and put their asses in the FEMA camps.
Alphaman you have made it clear with statements such as this "ISIS is Islam. They even state so in their name "Islamic State" and this "thus the war against Islam is won by the West one battle at a time." and this "you get called a bigot for hating the Islamic religion, although you know full well Islam teaches death to America. LOL"
You clearly demonstrate in these statements that you feel islam and ISIS are the same. you state a war against ISLAM and that you hate islam.
So when you state that you should round up extremists and put them in FEMA camps or make it illegal to be a part of said group then you are sating all muslims.
Confused - You are ignoring my point. Just because a Muslim is nice to his neighbours and wouldn't consider murdering for his religion it does not follow that he is moderate.
Every Muslim is obliged to "submit". It is simply not possible for a practising Muslim to take the position that Mo was a war-mongering, myogynist and homophobic. He was. He was also a pedophile.
I would define a moderate Muslim as one who would openly admit that Mo was a man of his times and that many of his writings ought to be ignored by all sensible 21st century people.
Millions of practising christians can do this regarding the bible.
Islam makes no such allowance.
Every practising JW is a religious fantatic. A moderate JW would be a lapsed JW. Exactly the same applies to Muslims. Moderation is not an option.
yes don't turn this into a Fox bashing thread. It is a news channel and i watch it . I am the sort of people who watch Fox and CNN and other news channels. .Sometimes Fox is spot on. You don't like the news channel so you refuse to believe the ladies head was hacked off by a whack job and that whack job then stabbed multiple times another woman and would have killed her had it not been for somone with a gun who shot him. Wish he had been a better shot b/c now this animal will tie up our courts and cost us money . Here comes the ACLU. protect the poor man. Who was protecting the 2 women working?
you feel islam and ISIS are the same
Not all Muslims support ISIS but all members of ISIS are Muslims.
Why won't you pay Muslims the respect of believing them when they tell you why the murder people?
The two branches of islam give us a taste of how seriously they regard the need to follow their book and how much they are willing to kill each other over it.
" So what's your solution to the people who want to do harm but don't want to change? Love-bomb them?"
It depends whom they want to do harm to. I am speaking from the standpoint of someone in America who has a nation with a shit ton of problems here that are far worse than the one woman that was beheaded. Honestly at this point in time in America I am more likely to die at the hands of a Police officer or a crazy gun nut because I am playing Jimi Hendrixx to loud at the local 7-11.
The madman who killed this woman was caught and will be dealt with. As I stated most Muslims in the US are not like this. I would tighten borders to ensure that there is not a free flow of people coming into the country who can do harm HERE. I would also stop policing the entire earth and stop providing weapons to Terrorist groups that will come back in 15 years to be AL-Quaeda or ISIS. I would certainly make sure that in the future I do not create countries by removing other people from their land and cause the previous inhabitants to want to do harm to me.
As for ISIS I hate to say this but the middle east needs to deal with the middle east. Extremist Muslims would not have the same zeal to do injury if we just left them to themselves. It may be a hard thing to imagine doing but ultimately if people of this region are not ready to stand up and change for themselves the USA or anyone else can not make it happen.
Does anyone really think that if we supposedly crush ISIS we are going to somehow case a huge change??? NO. However if Turkey was to step up with Jordan etc... it may have a better effect. Unfortunately to much damage was done some time ago so it doesn't appear that anything will help.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29414574
Timely debate and recognition of threat.
that you hate islam.
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OK....and why is hating Islam a bad thing? Have you not been paying attention to what the Islamic holy book says and teaches regarding me, my family, and my fellow Americans. Why should I not hate the religion, especially when it has shown what it stands for? Was it Islamic or just middle eastern terrorists that attacked the WTC on 9/11? Islamic terrorists could very well right now be planning to detonate a nuclear device in my city. Why in the hell in America do I have to like, love or not hate Islam?
I hate the Jehovah Witness religion. I hate Nazi white supremacy groups. I hate the KKK. I hate monkeys. I hate clowns. I hate one former boss. Sometimes people do things that cause people to hate them. The Muslim religion has done that to itself.
Edit: I use to hate a former business partner, but looking back there was something that happened between us that was very instrumental in me leaving the JW religion. Now I just think of him as the arrogant, dishonest, asshole he was. LOL
Edit: I hate David Arquette, because he is a doofus, and Courtney Cox should have been with me instead of him. If I ever get the chance for a Celebrity Fight Club challange.....I'm picking him! LOL
