What the new JW light position really is 👍 (page 10)

Ron.W.

Yes!

Let 'ElderBerry' tell his fellow 'lite' elders and fellow jdubs he posts here regularly and see how fast his jw lite ass is swiftly kicked into touch...

Anony Mous

Of course if you say things apostate then you will be treated just the same as any other religious belief system and they will say so why are you still coming here then? Best if you stop coming to the church, mosque or KH ect.

Again, proof that you are totally oblivious as to what life "outside" truly is. You've been told that lie repeatedly. Guess what, I am an open atheist, I go to a Presbyterian church. Guess what, they don't kick me out, they ask me for help, they shake my hand, they say hi, they invite me for sharing meals, we do fundraising events, they pray for my family when someone is sick.

You really have to go to extremist non-Christian churches (like JW and Millerite-adjacent) or potentially some extremist mosques to experience that kind of treatment.

On the same vein, when was the last time your KH had a soup kitchen, or took in an Afghan family that worked with US troops, or collected donations for food banks, or provided shelter to abused women and children - oh forgot, they're the ones that abuse the women and children.

things have changed so much. There is no more disfellowshiping. It’s actually very hard to be announced that someone is no longer a JW.

You are full of shit, tell the JW then to remove the first two references when I google "do jw disfellowship". They do and will continue to disfellowship. I'm aware they no longer call it disfellowshipping, as you say, they announce that someone is no longer a JW or they have a talk about it without naming people. Guess what, I'm not "disfellowshipped" legally speaking I'm still an in-tact member and didn't even lose my position, but they still treat me as if I was.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/w20150415/disfellowshipping-a-loving-provision/

https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/gods-love/disfellowshipped-person/

Is strict avoidance really necessary? Yes, for several reasons.
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Although there might be a need for limited contact on some rare occasion to care for a necessary family matter, any such contact should be kept to a minimum.

2022:

Christ’s disciples who live in a religiously divided household sometimes face situations that test their affection for Jehovah and Jesus. For example, unbelieving relatives may urge them to celebrate a religious holiday. When put to the test, whom will they please? Jesus said: “Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me.” (Matt. 10:37)

If a family member insists that someone cannot participate in any holiday because of its religious origins, even if the holiday is now secular, it creates tension and strain within the family. The individual who abstains might feel isolated, and their relatives may feel rejected or hurt that they won’t join in family traditions.Disagreements over what is "acceptable" participation in holidays could lead to arguments and resentment. If maintaining family unity is important, open communication, mutual respect, and compromise (where possible) would be essential in navigating these differences. This is done intentionally, because IT'S A CULT.

ThomasCovenant

Elderberry, Teddnzo, ExBethelitePIMA, InDoubtBigTime etc etc etc

just a troll of course.

TonusOH

ElderBerry: They don’t have the whole truth whatever your belief system whatever religion or non-religion.

Two things:

1- If this is your view, you should not belong to any religion. You cannot claim to be unsure and then remain in a group that follows a specific set of beliefs.

2- This must be the fourth or fifth time that I have to point out that I am not talking about the ultimate truths of the origins of the universe. I am referring to specific doctrines and policies that you can absolutely make judgments about. Your continued avoidance of this part of the discussion makes me think that you don't have an answer for it and are deliberately ignoring it. But this flies in the face of your claims that you're just agnostic and no different from anyone else.

You cannot not pick a lane.

ElderBerry

If this is your view, you should not belong to any religion. You cannot claim to be unsure and then remain in a group that follows a specific set of beliefs.

This is precisely what I am challenging. You are 100% wrong sir.

I Know for a fact that many if not most members of all belief systems including atheist and theists do not claim they know the entire truth without any doubts.

If you do claim that about your belief system that you currently have then you are a fool.

The course of wisdom is to realise that nobody has the entire truth about how the universe started. No matter what your current belief system is.

Most Churches or other places of worship are full of people who may go through the motions but they are basically PIMA just like me and most JWs today.

Many xJWs are thinking the cult is like it used to be when they were in it. I have tried to make it clear that this cult is changing so rapidly it’s hard to keep up.

this cult is now ok to have people like me as elders when I never would have been before when it’s clear I have doubts about the GB.

so many boys with bum fluff trying to grow a beard but they are too young to have a beard - they are all elders now.

the COs are like mid 20s they can’t grow a beard either most of them are still too young.

they are trying to go for a younger cooler more relaxed vibe but it is still a cult.

perhaps it’s not such a high control cult anymore but it is still a cult. I find it very interesting

I am referring to specific doctrines and policies that you can absolutely make judgments about. Your continued avoidance of this part of the discussion makes me think that you don't have an answer for it and are deliberately ignoring it. But this flies in the face of your claims that you're just agnostic and no different from anyone else.

You cannot not pick a lane.

I will challenge you on this as well, I can pick a lane and that’s exactly what I am doing so that proves you wrong right there.

Im not interested in any of that and most of us who choose JW lite are not interested either.

No matter how much you try to tell me I have to fit into your box you put me into I will always say no I’m just not interested in that.

who cares what some fat old men in upstate NY say or don’t say, I’m not interested in them at all. Most of us who are PIMA are not interested either. The GB are becoming more and more insignificant

Ron.W.

Why not tell your elder body you post here - who knows if they're as full of jw ~~lite~~ shite like yourself they may just join us here...

TonusOH

ElderBerry: I Know for a fact that many if not most members of all belief systems including atheist and theists do not claim they know the entire truth without any doubts.

That is not what you were saying before.

And this is not a response to what I said, either. So I will repeat it: if you truly are agnostic about the origins of the universe, you should not belong to any religion. You don't have to be atheist, either. Not knowing means not knowing. Taking a stand by joining a religion is the opposite of claiming to be agnostic.

ElderBerry: I can pick a lane and that’s exactly what I am doing

I don't think you understand what I am saying. You continue to go on about the ultimate truths of the universe, when that is not what is being challenged by several posters here. And, once again, you gloss over the actual challenge. You can't join a religion and then shrug off the real concerns about its policies and doctrines. You are supporting those by remaining a member.

jhine

Mikejw l am a Christian so believe that God is responsible for the world coming into being but have no problem with evolution. It doesn't have to be one or the other .

Anonymous Mous l agree that certainly most JWs and possibly many atheists have no idea how , as you say " really " religions operate .

Cults like the JWs push people to drink or suicide , they split families and cause children to have miserable childhoods .

Jan from Tam

stan livedeath

this is how elderberry gets his time in !

Ron.W.

Stan, I think you've cracked it!👍👍👍

If only we could report him to his congregation for visiting here.

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