What the new JW light position really is 👍

by ElderBerry 82 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  carla

  Yes, churches are filled with all kinds, they are not houses for saints. The difference is that if you belong to a church and have differing opinion and voice it, you will not be punished for saying so. You will not lose your children, you will not be encouraged to leave your spouse because they are a 'spiritual endangerment' , you will not be disfellowshipped. I know this because when I was a teen and having a discussion in a public class with my pastor and I disagreed with a concept/doctrine he bore me no ill will. We discussed, he allowed me my point and then made his point. All this while I was a mere teen and in class. We were allowed independent thinking and it was encouraged.

  Once again Anony Mous makes excellent points that you as an elder should answer but will not. Answer it in a public venue both in the kh and in public at large. Heck, do a video or podcast see how long you last in dubland. See how long your friends and family stick around. How about telling them you post here regularly? have you been honest with anybody in your life?
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  truthlover123

  I cannot get over the non seriousness of Elderberry. How long have you been in the org? How long an elder? Your responses are mostly off the cuff, no deep thought, just that everything is ok, easy going, so what.

  Do you realize what those who have been in the org for years see you as? Someone who can take their total life as they know it, and ruin it with a 3 man committee. If not them then their child, who may have been raped by another elder or ms. Have you handled such a case? Do you know an elder in Pennsylvania just got 30 years for raping two children? So far the number is up to 14 in jail and one committed suicide so he would not have to stand in court. The State of Pennsylvania is heavily into finding out ALL congregations records so as to reveal more cases. Are you aware? Cause all this board of POMO PIMAS are very well aware.

  You make it so laid back but deep down there are so many issues that you do not seem to relate to. I think you have a long way to go with the smiling, cheerful faces that greet you, yet may be grumbling behind you back if you are not being a hands on elder, coasting along with a clique in the congregation, not calling on them at home, not visiting the sick at home or in hospital, shepherding work, not helping a widow or lonely one in the congregation. There are many aspects to being a in depth full time elder- a responsibility Jehovah gave you to carryout fully.

  You really sound like you are new, a social media type, who is very light on responsibility. And do not really work hard in research to know what the depth of the truth as the org calls it, really is.
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  ElderBerry

  I think what many fail to realise is how much JW land has changed of late.

  It is ok to voice doubts these days. We often openly say what if the end is not right around the corner. Our kids may grow old in this system.

  what if we don’t have the correct understanding about this scripture ect.

  At the end of the day things have changed so much in JW land that it is now ok to be JW lite and be just like many other religious belief systems.

  Of course if you say things apostate then you will be treated just the same as any other religious belief system and they will say so why are you still coming here then? Best if you stop coming to the church, mosque or KH ect.

  you actually get love bombed even more if say your faith is weak and you are just not sure anymore. You get treated so well now, in the past they wanted you out.

  this is the largest U turn in the Borg. There is a huge retention effort. It’s very hard to get pushed out compared to the past. Only if you are apostate, or committed serious sin and are not repentant. In this case it’s just a 90day sanction and people still talk to you at the meetings.

  then the elders and their wives and friends love bomb you even more. You get invited out all the time.