An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff 1495 Replies latest jw experiences

  • d
    d

    God is just a figment of our imagation. He never existed and we have to deal with that. If we really depended on God to solve our problems we would all be dead.

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    You are right. If only they would listen, then they could write a earth shaking book, not they, but he or she, and it would become one of the millions of books, and how would we, I mean I, know which one it is that would cause me to volunteer in the right place, close to home, because I don't have much money for something else. But, to be fair, Mr. Jeff sir, (can I call you that?), thank you, you need not answer, unless it is (not me is) an irritation, you were not the one who said that genius of a plan, so I shouldn't say, but might sift through all the post, but it being my Sabbath, I probably shouldn't, but I don't want to anyway.

  • Meeting Junkie No More
    Meeting Junkie No More

    d - you're entitled to your figments as I believe I am to mine.

    Jeff, I'm not interested in saving myself. Every day I am on this earth is a GIFT and if it all ends at death, so be it. In the meantime, I am GRATEFUL to G-O-D, whatever figment of mine he/it happens to be, because I believe I am indebted to him/it/greater power for every breath I have so far been given. If I can give relief to one suffering creature on this earth in the time I am here, I believe I will have served my purpose. I, of course, don't speak for others, neither do I proselytize that mine is the only way. For sure I am not here to buy time in some future nirvana, and why you impute that motive to all believers is beyond me.

  • TheUbermensch
    TheUbermensch
    You are right. If only they would listen, then they could write a earth shaking book, not they, but he or she, and it would become one of the millions of books, and how would we, I mean I, know which one it is that would cause me to volunteer in the right place, close to home, because I don't have much money for something else. But, to be fair, Mr. Jeff sir, (can I call you that?), thank you, you need not answer, unless it is (not me is) an irritation, you were not the one who said that genius of a plan, so I shouldn't say, but might sift through all the post, but it being my Sabbath, I probably shouldn't, but I don't want to anyway.

    What does this even mean?

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    Meeting Junkie No More, well said! That is how I understand my faith also. And hello, it is nice to encounter you here!

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    Where's your thinking cap? OODAD, am I on the right thread? It looked harder than (then?) it is!

    I should probably point out for everyone who lost theirs, it is addressed to Uberm

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    TheUber it's called rambling, and I do suspect you really don't want to know "what does this even mean?".

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff
    and why you impute that motive to all believers is beyond me.

    Simply because I have never met a believer who felt that his eternal reward was not the goal he/she sought to attain. Are you telling me that you don't care one way or the other whether god puts you in heaven or hell? Be honest!

    Jeff

  • N.drew
    N.drew

    If someone does "be honest" with you will you 1. know it? no! will you 2. believe it? not likley

  • TheUbermensch
    TheUbermensch

    Well, N.drew, I would expect a good Christian to be honest about their endeavor to recieve entrance into heaven. If someone gives an honest answer it's pretty obvious that it IS honest. But usually if someone is living in denial it is not likley that they would own up to certain things, it IS likely that they would just deny it so that they win the argument.

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