HELP ME... (page 8)

Nathan Natas

POOH:

It is time for you to decide whether you will sacrifice your life for your husband's cult or sacrifice your marriage so that you can have a life. Whatever you decide, it will be YOUR CHOICE. Even if you choose to do nothing and "go with the flow." I don't recall you explaining if you had kids whose lives will also be put in jeopardy by your husband's cult.

NorthernGirl:

You were a JW in good standing. Then you began smoking. I wonder why? Demons?

Then you were disfellowshipped for smoking. Did the elders treat you with compassion, or did they just kick you out as soon as they found out you were smoking?

In your heart, you're a true blue JW - - who has conveniently relieved herself of all the standard JW obligations - you don't go to the five weekly meetings because you don't like being shunned, you don't go from door to door as the WTS commands...

Can you defend your faith? Do you realize that you have a scriptural obligation to defend your faith?

So I ask - why do you belive the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society dogma?

What "truth(tm)" do they offer?

Which of their many prophecies have come true when predicted and as predicted?

And I'm curious - how do you get your magazines, since - as already mentioned (but ignored) - there are no more "subscriptions" to them?

Do you have a brother who calls himself "YouKnow" or "NYTELECOM"?

Welcome to the board, glad you're here.

"Cognitive dissonance relieved while you wait."

wednesday

yes nathan,

i asked several pages back the same question

How does NG get the mags? They don't mail them any longer.

i got no answer.

weds

northern girl

Hi Nathan :

I began smoking to ease the pain of being abused by a alcoholic husband.

The elders at the time were extremely good to me ( I didn't tell them about the abuse ... lots of us don't)

I would welcome more than anything to have all the obligations you mentioned.

When I am reinstated I will most definitely defend the Truth ( I'm not really in a position to while I'm out.

I get my magazines from the elder who is looking into me being reinstated.

You wouldn't know any of my brothers.

Welcome accepted.

northern girl

Nathan Natas

Hi Northern Girl,

Look at all the unconditional acceptance you have found here at an internet "den of apostasy"!

It will be a shame that you'll have to give that up when your elders tell you to.

Was your alcoholic abusive husband also a JW? An elder, perhaps? Some are, you know...

or perhaps ALL victims are liars. Are you a liar when you tell us you were victimized? I don't think you are, but some elders might.

Think on these things.

Seek righteousness.

Seek unabashed and humble honesty.

Seek truth that is congruent with observable reality.

northern girl

Nathan : Actually this unconditional acceptance has mostly been to bash me.

Compare this to giving up cigarettes ... no contest.

My husband was not a JW. Maybe you missed what I had mentioned ( I didn't tell the elders of the abuse ... no one else for that matter ... I wasn't even 20 years old at the time.)

badolputtytat

"I would be very happy to be in such a position; I was df'd many years ago for smoking. I've quit smoking for nearly 2 years now but being reinstated requires attending meetings while everybody shuns you and I'm just not capable of accepting this treatment. Oh well ......"

I would gladly give my life to save yours. The above statement stabbed me in the chest like a knife. I feel terrible that you think this little of yourself.... that they made you think this little of yourself. Please re-think this.... I am not saying don't do what YOU believe is right.... but please, do re-consider this train of thought. First of all I am sure you would NOT be happy if you were in this situation... You said yourself you cannot accept this treatment. I am sorry, but the "treatment" won't change like the prophecies do.

Hold your head up. If you believe in this religion, then follow it. But do NOT accept this treatment. Your lungs will do you no good, if you cannot laugh, cannot say what you feel, cannot stand up for yourself.

jgnat

Actually this unconditional acceptance has mostly been to bash me.

Gee, thanks, Northern Girl. Perhaps in your worldview who you are and what you believe is the same thing. Not so here. Please don't take criticism of the society as a personal attack on your person.

Instead of spouting generalities, why don't you start a new thread with one WT doctrine you firmly believe in. Follow the debate to the end. Otherwise, your firm belief is based on nothing other than personal opinion.

I know there is at least one, probably two WT doctrines you do not adhere to, but I will leave those alone for now.

Nathan Natas

Hi Northern Girl,

So you were a faithful JW who married a worldy guy? Or did you become a JW after the marriage?

I am sorry for the abuse you suffered.

I urge you to check out the SilentLambs.org website - there are many who have suffered as you have and worse WITHIN the JW religious organization.

Children have been abused and the abuse has been covered up.

People who exposed the abuse were disfellowshipped for making the congregation of God's people look bad.

Isn't it the ABUSERS who make the congragation look bad rather than the lovers of righteousness who expose and stop the abusers?

Be careful and avoid another abusive relationship.

berylblue

Welcome, Pooh and Northern Girl.

northern girl

Sounds like a pretty sad situation around here but it really isn't. Recalling bad times can put a real pall on things. That's all in the past now and I look forward to much better days ... northern girl.

Thanks for the welcome, berylblue.

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