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  Kudos to the Christians/Believers on JWD. (seriously)

  by Open mind in

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  first off i'd like to say that the title of this thread is not tongue-in-cheek.

  i remember a thread from ak-jeff a couple months ago where he observed how some posters develop a condescending attitude towards christians and how that made him feel like he didn't really fit in here.

  i'm sure that may have come across (unintentionally) in some of my recent threads where i've related my arrival at agnosticism/atheism.

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  zack

  Thanks for the post.

  The freedom from dogmatism is intoxicating to me. The positions the WTS asserts and then demands of its members is suffocating, especially since they have nothing to do with anything that is either testable or proven.

  Faith is the assured expectation of realities though not beheld. The WTS wants credulity and capitulation, not faith. This forum has certainly enabled me to think, broaden my mind, and do so with, if you pardon the pun, an open mind. Any man who speaks before having heard the whole matter is stupid. The WTS should follow that advice from the Bible. How can any one know anything without hearing the many things that are to be said? So what if it takes a life time.

  Thanks.
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  More FEARmongering.....

  by R.F. in

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  i've missed meetings consistently for about 2 months now.

  my ex-fiancee just left a energy-filled voicemail.

  she said........... "please come back to the meetings!

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  zack

  I am happy for you that you have seen things in the Borg for what they are. The WTS has used fear to entice recruits and retain its members. Living in fear is no way to live. "A coward dies a thousand times....The valiant taste of death but once." Julius Ceaser, By W. Shakepeare.

  As a Christian, I have learned that fear is actually a sin against God. The expression Have no Fear appears dozens of time in the new Testament alone, often from Christ himself. Love throws fear outside.

  Do not be afraid, my friend. Live a life of your own purpose and do good to others. JW's merely hope to "survive." God wants us to LIVE! You are on the right road to choosing well.
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  Do you know how strong you all are?

  by jgnat in

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  i'm thinking this morning at the enormous effort required to leave the witnesses.

  that you all found your way here is amazing.

  you are a select group of strong people, who will not allow life or any organization to knock you down.

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  zack

  Thanks for the post. While still in and very active I would wonder how anyone could ever leave the Truth? It seemed to me like stepping out into the vacuum of space to be lost and listless forever. I am glad so many had the courage, the smarts, the will power to leave and to let it be known why they left. Thanks to Freeminds, and Ray, and JWD I was able to see for myself what the Road Less Traveled was and why it was. Thanks all.
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  Do any Christians here still believe that ARMAGEDDON is real?

  by nicolaou in

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  if so, what do you think will happen when it comes?.

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  My personal feeling is that Armageddon will be God's final conquest over Evil. What form or shape that takes is any one's guess. I beleive it is his last act of straighteneing up the Universe. I don't worry about it. I didn't screw things up, and it isn't my responsibility to straighten things out.
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  What If Artificial Intelligence Never comes?

  by metatron in

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  http://www.technologyreview.com/printer_friendly_article.aspx?id=18867.

  i wonder....... speaking hypothetically, suppose that science is never able to create artificial .

  intelligence.

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  I think scientific progress is wonderful, but it misses the point many times. For instance, any human being with an IQ of 60 or less is considered an idiot. He needs help. He makes poor decisions. He is incapable of problem solving beyond his conditioned and simplistic learning. Yet, he is fully a human being and fully concious, and yet we lable him as something less than what we ourselves are.

  If a machine could operate, think, interact, and feel like any human being with such a low IQ, we would be astounded by this "miracle" of science, yet we tend to discard the very same human being as something less, a burden on us, a blight on our kind.

  I love science. But it has no soul, man.

  As for smart machines, they really are all around us. If they expected to mimic a human being, then I do not beleive they ever will. A human making another human is possible---- you just got to like the infant stage of development.

  Good thread. I always enjoy your subjects.
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  ARMAGGEDDON 2008!

  by badboy in

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  someone is predicting 2008 as end of the world.. what do you think?.

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  zack

  The sucker isn't the one who predicts but the one who believes.

  I was a sucker.
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  If JW's message is so urgent and Armageddon is imminent..

  by PopeOfEruke in

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  then why do the walk so slow when out in field service?????????.

  honestly, i saw some dubs out witnessing yesterday and they have invented the "worlds most incredible slow walk".

  it makes a glacier look like a speeding avalanche.

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  zack

  THE WHOLE THING IS A SHAM. eVERYONE KNOW IT IS A SHAM. wITNESSESS KNOW THEY ARE NOT BRINGIN A LIFE SAVING MESSAGE TO ANYONE! tHEY COUNTING TIME. tHEY ARE SHAMEFUL. tHEIR MINISTRY IS FOR SHOW, A JOKE. WITH SO MANY SOULS OUT THERE WHO ARE HURT AND IN NEED, THESE PEOPLE SPEND AS LITTLE TIME AS POSSIBLE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR SUCH ONES. mOST WITNESSES DO NOT CARE ABOUT EVER SPEAKING TO ANYONE IN FIELD SERVICE. IT IS ALL A SHOW. IT IS EMPTY.
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  September 1st 2007 QFR re FDS

  by AlphaOmega in

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  for your perusal.... .

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  zack

  These guys live in their own Universe and not only make up the rules of that Universe, they change, suspend, or delete at will any rule without thought to the internal harmony of their story. It isn't about logic, common sense, or even trying to make sense: it is about control of the massess. They will accept whatever horseshit the WTS spews forward, they will teach it, they will be happy about it--- or they can get the hell out. This bunch doesn;t care. THEY ARE EVIL! ANd they can hide no longer.

  WHere's the MONEY, WTBTS? WHERE? WHERE IS THE FULL ACCOUNTING? WHAT ARE YOIU DOING WITH MY MONEY? AND DON:T ASK ME TO TRUST GOD. IT"S YOU I DON"T TRUST/ SO, WHERE IS THE MONEY?
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  WHY JEHOVAH SHOULDN'T BE IN BIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by badboy in

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  the letter `j' was only in the english language from about sharespeakean times circa 1600.. iehova was the way it woul have been written..

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  zack

  Leave the word in. Just DO NOT INSERT IT WHERE IT DOES NOT BELONG.

  It's no lucky charm. no talisman.

  Get an honest translation, with or without the YHWH. The context will show who the writer is talking about.
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  Showing love by sleeping with prostitutes and encouraging wrongdoing ...

  by Frequent_Fader_Miles in

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  2. experiences

  further to my earlier post about the conversation i had with a depressed jw friend who was baptized at 12 years old .... she knows i married a non-jw, but doesn't know of my fading.

  she asked me whether i would help my husband with christmas shopping and gift wrapping.

  of course my answer was yes, but i decided to avoid answering directly and pick her brain a bit.

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  zack

  If the WTS can find any reason for NOT helping someone, it will.